pike-56 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Posted July 20, 2012 I moved this over from Nihonto seeking information about this Tsuba. About all I know it is made of Iron and it appears to be a crane. Any information would be greatly appreciated. http:// http:// ____________ David P Quote
Alan Morton Posted July 20, 2012 Report Posted July 20, 2012 David, how lucky can you be, a genuine Higo crane Tsuba in need of a bit of TLC I'm not sure of full age but at least 150 years old. It'a very popular motive amongst collectors. Did it come off a sword? What are the daimentions height and width? Regards Alan. Quote
Marius Posted July 20, 2012 Report Posted July 20, 2012 Don't want to be spoiling the fun, but IMHO this tsuba is cast. Look at the lifeless seppa-dai, at this certain sloppiness to it, the kebori is pretty bad, too. It would be good to be able to study higher resolution pics, but based on what I see, my take is: cast. Quote
Geraint Posted July 20, 2012 Report Posted July 20, 2012 Compare with this one? http://www.owazamono.com/TB-026.html#grid Quote
pike-56 Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Posted July 20, 2012 I guess one of the things I should have said was that I knew it was forged, because it has that ring to it when you tap it that a forged tsuba should have Thanks Geraint for the link, that looks like a near exact match to this one, and good news. _________ DavidP. Quote
christianmalterre Posted July 20, 2012 Report Posted July 20, 2012 I don´t think actually this one is cast. There are several indicators visible so to feel comfortable that it´s an real one. However David P.(!)- be well aware that this "Ring-Sound" theory is purly amatheurish-AND NOT AT ALL an indicator! (Cast Iron can be easily converted to malleable iron by decarbonising.This is depending on the knowledge and manufacture-processes available to the worker) An method,process/well known in the Jap.use for kettles(as an example). Christian Quote
Brian Posted July 20, 2012 Report Posted July 20, 2012 Yes..I have heard that one a few times lately. Please note, that a ringing tsuba means nothing. A fake or a casting can still make the same sound. It is an old wives tale. flicking metal and listening can sometimes tell if there is a crack though. Brian Quote
Marius Posted July 21, 2012 Report Posted July 21, 2012 I wish Ford would comment on this one. He has the best expertise here. Quote
Thierry BERNARD Posted July 23, 2012 Report Posted July 23, 2012 some similare tsuba from "tsuba sushei" book Quote
Jacques Posted July 23, 2012 Report Posted July 23, 2012 Hi, Measurements please (included nakago ana). Quote
pike-56 Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Posted July 24, 2012 The Tsuba measures 3 2/16 inches wide, 3 3/16 inches high (almost completely round).I'm not completley certain how to measure the nakago ana, but what I came up with is 7/16 across the bottom and 1 3/16 inches high, that is iron to iron not counting the copper. I appreciate your help and the pictures are great. __________ David P. Quote
Peter Bleed Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 David, You have treated us to a very interesting discussion. I appreciate the insights that have been shared. The positive power of the forum is truly impressive. Thank y9ou all. My vote - for what it might be worth, ie 'not much' - is that this is NOT a cast guard. Seeing groups of similar fittings helps us understand how fittings were created and produced. Both the people who made kodogu and the men who bought and wore them LIKED regularity. This tsuba may be a piece that conformed to an established design. It might even be "school work." But I see rather pleasant treatment in the surface details. Peter Quote
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