Ebay Tsukamaki "Museum quality"

[Jean]

How do you not bring out the hada on an Oei Bizen blade?????

 

Very easily Matt, let me polish it and I'll give you back an Arkansas toothpick

[Jorgensen]

PS: I offer 50 for it !

Hey, hey, stop overbidding me... very unreasonable

 

I sent one, a week later my friend sent 3 and it took a year to get all of them back... Dont ask, no idea!!!! And never again!

Well, I just think you had trust in he would do a good job with the blades. I think most people find the look, pics and what he writes on his homepage appealing and trustworthy. But its great however you warn us other people here on the board.

 

Another though I had, is that I think some indicate he may use a belt grinder (im not sure of the english word here is correct). It will heat the steel to much and may in the end also give the result as you showed on the pictures.

 

As told I have done a little polishing on blade and kogatana myself, here is some pics of it. Before I started blade was totally... grey... no visible grain, hamon... nothing... On those pica is before I have give nugui and finished it completely. Kogatana was very rusty as they use to be... Indeed no museum quality, but much better than I got it though. Sorry for pic quality - pics was taken with my phone.

 

But that makes me really wonder how the #¤% he cannot bring out the grain (hada) on a old Bizen blade... Have one myself and... doooh

 

Please note I do not encourage to polish blades yourself. I have spent many MANY hours study polish technique, got tips from pro's and have real Japanese polishing stones. And I am far from just being good! However, good thing is the learning and the study/seeing the details of a blade in another way than usually.

 

Lot of babling... this polish thing is just of big interest for me

 

-Jimi

[Jiro49]

Uhm, ok so your my new polisher

 

Ive messed around with hazuya and jizuya but all I can get is a white cloud look to the steel...

[Brian]

Sorry, but talk of self-polishing no matter what context is only going to get you flamed. We are pretty emphatic about this.

We do not advocate, discuss or justify this...even on "old, tired" blades or "project blades"

Let's drop the subject before it goes down a familiar road.

 

Brian

[Jiro49]

Noted, just joking around!

[Jorgensen]

Jiro49 wrote:

Uhm, ok so your my new polisher

No, no... Will never polish on other peoples blade. I dont feel I am qualified for that. I have made some pretty good results so far, but I do not have enough knowlegde about the variety of blades from different schools, provinces, smith and era's to do so. Every blade is very different working with.

 

Brian wrote:

Sorry, but talk of self-polishing no matter what context is only going to get you flamed.

 

Well, have a feeling that I should be careful what I say. Just wanted to point out or underline why Im so surprised and what was so wrong with this polishing job (especially from someone who tell he can make museum quality polish). Im just so shocked how bad this is and angry that some people state themselves as proffesionals and ruining other people loved blades... Point is - if you absolutely have to polish - do it on your own blades, right.

 

However if self-polishing is not a legal subject to discuss, I will of course respect this and leave it here. And I surely dont wanna get toasted as well ... As said, I dont encourage others to do this. It IS very difficult.

[Jiro49]

Sorry, not sure what "flamed" means... An equivalent to stoning perhaps????

[Jorgensen]

Noted, just joking around!

 

Yes, yes... just PM me when Brians not looking :D

 

(juuust kidding )

[Brian]

.. Point is - if you absolutely have to polish - do it on your own blades, right...

Nope. Point is, if you absolutely have to polish...don't. Resist the urge, and find some other hobby.

You are only around for what...80-100 years? The blade has the potential to be around for 1000 or many more. As long as people don't think they can polish themselves. You are only the temporary custodian of these blades.

'Nuff said...back to the topic, and no more talk about self polishing on any genuine Nihonto.

 

Brian

[cabowen]

The thing that many people don't understand is that a polish can look great in pictures, or even in person, but still have ruined a blade because the foundation is bad. If the foundation is really bad, the blade can be ruined....

[Grey Doffin]

The "world renouned (sic) artist"/polisher/sword grinder has struck again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-in-New-Guinea-WWII-Japanese-Sword-Wakizashi-with-Saya-and-Kozuka-/170839862328?pt=Asian_Antiques&hash=item27c6d96c38

 

Sure have seen a lot of very terrible polishing lately. I wish people had more sense.

Grey

[hxv]

Yikes! Now the sword is looking like a *BAD* Chinese fake.

 

Hoanh

[BSA]

People need to remember that even flawed or tired swords are valuable in increasing our knowledge of Nihonto. They might not be masterworks, but an entire discipline is not defined solely by the cream of the crop. To establish an accurate survey of Nihonto as a whole we need to preserve the good and the bad. An amateur polish is going to remove more steel then necessary, even if it appears cosmetically acceptable. We can’t go back in time and make more old blades, once they’re gone, they’re gone. We aren’t just dealing with art in our hobby; we’re also dealing with artifacts. They deserve some respect. When in doubt, do no harm.

[Grey Doffin]

Maybe if we are sure to name the errant polishers, search engines will find this thread and just maybe someone who is considering the polisher will see this and be warned off and maybe a sword will be saved.

Towards that end, I'd like to say we are talking about Takonomakura Restorations and Eric James Roush.

Grey

[Art Torano]

Grey,

 

Thanks for coming out with that post. The best thing that can happen is people are aware of Eric's scams.

 

I can tell you that this fellow is lacking any integrety and I wish there were a way to make EBay and Pay Pal aware of his business practices or lack there of.

 

Regards

Arturo Torano

[Jiro49]

I doubt ebay will care, they get their percentage so... But I agree, I can only state my feelings and my friends regarding the blades that we have seen destroyed.

 

Sorry to say I think he will continue!

 

Regards,