DeepSouth Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 I picked up this Wakizashi a few months back, looks like a nice blade. It is signed Tada Mitsu, could anyone help me with the translation or maybe some help with the date, or markings on the fittings. This is a great board and I am glad I found it, any help is greatly appreciated. Quote
cabowen Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 Blade is signed Bishu Osafune Tadamitsu Dated Eisho 5 Nen 8 Gatsu Hi Quote
Lance Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 Looks like someone beat me to it.......... Can't help with the signature on the fuchi, but the Sword itself looks to be signed: Bishu Osafune Tadamitsu, and the date looks to read Eisho go nen hachi gatsu hi: A day in August, 1508 Eisho (1504) 5th year, 8th month last character is day Below are some pages to help read with kanji on swords http://www.jssus.org/nkp/index.html http://www.jssus.org/nkp/common_kanji.html It looks to have active red rust on it, you should check out the faq below and look under care and maintenence for how to oil and maintain Nihonto, http://www.nihontomessageboard.com/faq.html Regards, Lance Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 人道宗典 A Soheishi Nyudo(Nindo seems more right ?) Soten fuchigashira maybe. It would be nice to see both of them. John Quote
DeepSouth Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Posted February 1, 2012 It needs a good polish, would this be a good blade to submit for papers? Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Deep South: please sign your posts with your name. Its mandatory. KM Quote
Guido Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 人道宗典 A Soheishi Nyudo(Nindo seems more right ?)There's a tiny difference in how the Kanji are written: 入道 = Nyûdô (Buddhist lay priest), 人道 = Jindô (humanity); the inscription on the Fuchi is 入道宗典 (Nyûdô Sôten). Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Agree, the place to begin with this sword is arresting the active rust from progressing. Then, perhaps, researching the mei further as some of these "Mitsu" signatures were school signatures rather than the named swordsmith's signature. Again, it will be the workmanship which confirms who might have made this, and not the mei. Some school signatures will paper as such, so there are a number of things to consider prior to deciding whether or not to polish, but in the end quality should be the main factor IMHO. Like others, would like a better look at these fittings if possible, thanks in advance. Quote
DeepSouth Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Posted February 2, 2012 I will post better pictures of the fittings ASAP! Thanks everyone Quote
Jean Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Curiously, I don't like the way the Tada kanji is engraved, I had some difficulties to recognize it and I have not seen in the Tadamitsu lineage such way of engraving the kanji. Generally it is readable at first sight, when I saw it I thought of a mix of Sada and Tada, but there was so many generation, but the most well known Eisho Tadamitsu did not sign this way. Quote
DeepSouth Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Posted February 3, 2012 Do you have any opinion on the fittings? Quote
lbkmd43 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 deep south dont listen to all the naysayers they are all jealous nice sword beautiful fittings worthy of polish and then papers a real nice find bravo LKMD Quote
DeepSouth Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Posted February 6, 2012 Thank you, I am not worried about naysayers, I know it is a nice blade, especially with the fittings and date, I appreciate your input. Quote
Jean Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 I just checked the Fujishiro, there is an oshigata by Eisho Tadamitsu. The mei does not fit. Considering the blade in itself taking into account that no close up of the hamon/kissaki is provided, no one can say from the pictures if it is a good or not blade. For myself, unless in full polish, I won't issue an opinion taking into account my misadventure with a Kanetsune which had a NTHK Kanteisho and which shows two hagire once polished... 1 Quote
DeepSouth Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Posted February 6, 2012 To my knowledge it was my understanding that the mei listings are not definitive. A local expert has already examined the Kissaki, this blade has no fatal flaws. The hamon is suguha. Quote
runagmc Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 I see what Jean is saying about the Tada kanji, so I can't say for sure about the mei, but the shape of the blade and nakago look like Eisho Bizen to me. Quote
Jean Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 Adam, The suguta/nakago looks like sue Bizen and not specially Eisho. Tadamitsu lineage is famed for its suguha pattern which becomes much wider at the kissaki. There were also koshi no hiraita swords forged by thems. Jeffrey, I mentionned intentionally the kanteisho of NTHK, the kanteisho is not attributed by one expert but by a panel of experts, reason why I wait for a blade to be in full polish. 1 Quote
DeepSouth Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Posted February 6, 2012 Well I certainly appreciate everyone's expert advice and input, thank you very much. Quote
runagmc Posted February 8, 2012 Report Posted February 8, 2012 Adam, The suguta/nakago looks like sue Bizen and not specially Eisho. Tadamitsu lineage is famed for its suguha pattern which becomes much wider at the kissaki. There were also koshi no hiraita swords forged by thems. Jeffrey, I mentionned intentionally the kanteisho of NTHK, the kanteisho is not attributed by one expert but by a panel of experts, reason why I wait for a blade to be in full polish. I agree Jean... I just said Eisho because that's the period dated on this blade. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted November 20, 2017 Report Posted November 20, 2017 Does anyone know what happened to this blade? Quote
checkmateking2 Posted May 6, 2019 Report Posted May 6, 2019 Does anyone know what happened to this blade? I still have it, it has been polished. I had to make a new name since I no longer have my former email address. Jeffrey W. 1 Quote
Brian Posted May 7, 2019 Report Posted May 7, 2019 If you message me your former email address and the new one, I can change it, and then you can access lost passwords etc. 1 Quote
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