Please your knowledge is needed.

[yamamoto]

Anybody have any Idea's on this, Fake or real? Time period? Value?

The Back of the Tsuba

I believe this to be money?!

[Justin]

Looks fake to me.

 

Regards

Justin

[yamamoto]

Which one? And why?

[yamamoto]

Which one? And why?

[Justin]

I don't know much about the coin sorry, but the tsuba looks like a reproduction to me.

 

The colour of the iron and the light, amateur looking carving reminds me of the many chinese fakes on eBay.

 

I'm also no expert of tsuba though, so I'll let other people comment on this.

 

Regards

Justin

[yamamoto]

It was in my mothers Attic for sometime! She is Japanese and we had a very close friend of the family back in Japan who collected swords give her that tsuba in the 80's.

[Justin]

Could also be a Meiji period tsuba produced for the tourist/export market. I have forgotten the name of this type of tsuba (shiramono maybe?).

 

Regards

Justin

[yamamoto]

Thank you for your input but I would like to see what other members think.

[Bungo]

don't know about the money but I am quite sure the tsuba is cast .

 

milt the ronin

[Mike]

Hi, looks to me like cast tsuba. I bought my first tsuba in at a flee market near shrine in Tokyo, and it was cast one, it is not unlikely that your mother got from Japan.

Mike

[yamamoto]

Well I'm O for 2 lol Fake sword and Tsuba :lol: Ahhh But what about the Money!!?

[Curran]

Real, but a late late Edo or Meiji/Showa cast of a Soten (or derivative school).

 

They have some minimal worth, but not much. I purchased a tsuba from blurry ebay photos. It turned out to be a cast. So I offered it as "cast tsuba" with full disclosure and priced it at about 1/2 of what I paid. I thought even that was a tad aggressive, but people still wanted it. Went fast.

 

I do not know anything about the coin you posted.

[Brian]

Hi Andrew,

Remember that casting is an old practice, and a cast tsuba does not always indicate it is a fake or made yesterday. Although not a high class piece by any means, it still has some age, and as Curran pointed out, could still be a genuine tsuba. Not something a tsuba collector will go out looking for..but not destined for the dustbin either

 

Regards,

Brian

[yamamoto]

You guys are great! I must say thank you for all of your knowledge!!!! Its not fake yay! :lol:

[Ed Harbulak]

I'm not sure the "coin" is actual currency, that is, money. I have one like it that was made into a tsuba for a small tanto. The central portion of the coin was enlarged and elongaged to accept the nakago of the tanto. The tanto is long gone, but I kept the tsuba/coin. I was told that it was a temple token, sold? by a temple to be used as a donation or some story similar to that. It may be more like a "good luck" charm from some temple. I don't know the age or value, but it's not one of a kind. Besides the one I have, I recall seeing at least one other, at a flea market if I recall correctly. At least it's not a fake, whatever it is.

Ed

[KjetilK]

The coin, if it's a genuine cast, is currency. It's a 100 mon piece, tempo tsuho, made about 1835-1870. It's not rare and may well be genuine.

 

best, Kjetil