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you should see this - (fraudulent auctions)

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Grey Doffin Grand Master

Grey Doffin

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Interesting ebay fraud here; don't think I've seen this one before. The seller has a picture of the real Hidemitsu tachi, which he claims to be selling, and pictures of the Thai fake, which I'm sure the poor sap buyer will end up with.

I reported the sale to ebay; hope they remove it.

Grey

Brian

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I think there are 3 or 4 different swords in there too. None of them match.

Really odd one this. Good going Grey...eBay should start paying you a salary :)

 

Regards,

Brian

Guido Grand Master

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Eugene...you win the wierdest post of the month award :D

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Now what type of subject is "you should is this" :?: :D

next time you want to sell a sword Cut a can full of watter with it to show it`s real, just struck me as :lol: ......... whats the prize

Aaahhhh [slapping my forehead], *that* explains everything .. :?:

 

I'm sometimes painfully aware of not being a native English speaker. Or maybe it has nothing to do with language, and I just entered the Twilight Zone! :badgrin:

sencho Mentor

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Yep... now he is using some of Mike Yamaguchi's pictures... I'd recognise that carpet anywhere!!!

 

I see that some of the bidders are visible.... how about contacing them?

 

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Stephen Grand Master

Stephen

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should of recognized the girls photos. I sent it off to ebay.

Brian i think all of this thread should be under GD as some fine folk have items on auction and need this space to sell there wares.

Brian

Brian

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Will leave it here, as this is for anything auction related, but edited the topic to indicate the fraud.

Reported it too...the more the better. Good catch folks.

 

Brian

Bungo Veteran

Bungo

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arrrrhhhhhhh, not into rabbit.

 

By the way, in certain Asian countries, being labelled a " rabbit lovers " could mean a lot of things, certainly won't get you into any military services. :badgrin:

 

milt the ronin

Stephen Grand Master

Stephen

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arrrrhhhhhhh, not into rabbit.

 

By the way, in certain Asian countries, being labelled a " rabbit lovers " could mean a lot of things, certainly won't get you into any military services.

 

milt the ronin

:badgrin: :offtopic: :shame:

Stephen Grand Master

Stephen

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besides the head slapping and off topic jokes if you care about doing something about this do as did (see list). go to one of Bangkok Bangers auctions and report him...it could be a sword off your site or your auctions that he hits next. Step up boys.

 

Brian, Grey, Nigel Stever, Ed,and myself

Stever Collaborator

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Add mine, too. I just reported all the swords this seller is listing. I try to do this whenever I come across a questionable listing, but there are so d*mn many I don't know where to draw the line. At one point I was emailing bidders on chinese crap, which quickly becomes a full-time business for about 15 people! Where do others draw said line? There's everything from copied pictures to full listings to simple declarations of antique when it's anything but.

 

On that note, it'd also be nice if eBay had better fraud reporting options - like being able to give evidence of the fraud (links to the original pics, etc). I can't see how they can do anything with their current system other than set a threshold for how many reports before an item gets yanked. Seems almost useless to me.

Grey Doffin Grand Master

Grey Doffin

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Here's how to give ebay evidence, copied site for example. Click on 'report this item', next 'fraudulent listings', and then 'you suspect that a listing is fraudulent you didn't bid'. Continue to email ebay and then you will be able to tell them what you know.

As to how far to go to fight the fake sellers, I never email bidders on fakes. I think it's enough to report the scam artists; those who don't have the sense to research what they're bidding on will just have to learn the hard way.

Grey

Stever Collaborator

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That's sort of what I've been doing, except on the page to email eBay, it just has a box to enter the item numbers to be reported, with nowhere to put any other info. I have no confidence that anything else put in that box will be used in any way. Do you have information that suggests otherwise?

 

Thanks,

Stephen Grand Master

Stephen

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When i report it show item number in the top box and a lower one to fill out info in that box i add the sites, auctions ect of said fraud...im thinking no one is reading them.

Stever Collaborator

Stever

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I reported the new listings to eBay, and also emailed Usagiya about it. Interestingly enough, I found that the fraud reporting systems on ebay.ca and ebay.com are different. Odd.

 

cheers

Grey Doffin Grand Master

Grey Doffin

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I spoke with an ebay rep; here's the straight poop on why the listings are still up.

Only the person whose online photos have been stolen can complain about them being stolen. It doesn't make any sense to me but ebay won't stop the sale unless the pictures' owners raise a stink.

On the Hidemitsu sale where the scam artist shows pictures of multiple swords, ebay won't remove the listing because "he isn't required to show pictures of the item he is selling." Once again, makes no sense to me.

Buyer beware.

Grey

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