Owari Tsuba

[edzo]

dear David,

 

Check this site for the design of your Sukashi Tsuba http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/xcfmh521/58136814.html

 

very close.

Respectfully

[Baka Gaijin]

Hi David,

 

See "Maruni Kino Kaku Ji" & "Maruni Kengi No Ji" - Third row down 2 & 3 from the left and a double version fifth row down no 1.

 

http://www.tozandoshop.com/v/vspfiles/k ... cter1.html

 

Not exactly the same but getting there.

 

 

Cheers

[christianmalterre]

So what?

i do think there´s nothing to add here any longer(from point of educational view concerning this mentioned Owari Sukashi Tsuba)

If still?-please do let me know-as,if such,it seems, i may/did/will missunderstand something here perhaps?

Does this threat here intend so to give an evaluation and help to this very Tsuba David(Akitombo) did post?

 

Or does this threat go in direction of "How to preserve""How much similaritie´s"(please what???-Sorry-but what do you see here???)- there may be to Kanayama Tsuba...ect..?

Didn´t we speak about this one single piece here?

 

I just saw that there´s one Sukashi Tsuba of an very familiar execution(but younger) still offered since quite a longer time now(as i did learn after inquiery);by an reputed Japanese Seller on his web-side,equally it is interesting that this Tsuba is described as "Moji"sukashi (letter design)/which of course sounds better to me than mine first thought of "stilised personnages" as i wrote before...)

This spoken Tsuba by this dealer,does equally show much more significances than first expected-i do think it,may be better so to follow those hints Ford Hallam did gave here already just in the beginnings of this threat;and do further research on those informations.

(But-didn´t i wrote this already?)

 

Christian

[edzo]

Dear David,

 

I ran accross a painting of Sakakibara Yasumasa (Momoyama period) He was one of Tokugawa Ieyasu's four highest ranking distinguished retainers along with Honda T. In the painting, (a portrait of him) he sits dresses for battle with a banner behind him. On the banner is a round ball at the top and below a pair of this character side by side. They are referred to as Mu meaning "nothigness" ??? The are reversed which makes me wonder if the tsuba was intended for a tachi. Don't know if this helps, Ed

[Soshin]

Hi Ed,

 

I not sure how the Japanese Kanji for mu (無) meaning emptiness or void is related to the design of the Kanji on the tsuba. I am fairly sure the modern Japanese Kanji with this meaning has underwent simplification from the original archaic Chinese ideogram. Could you provide a picture of the painting you are referring to? I think this would be helpful to David.

 

 

 

Yours truly,

David Stiles

[edzo]

Hi David,

 

Here it is. hope it helps or may lead to a conclusion.

img188.pdf

[Soshin]

Hi Ed,

 

I would agree the design does match very well. In the case of the tsuba the central line found in the painting is replaced by the seppa-dai and the nakago-ana. Still not sure how it could mean void or emptiness. Thank you.

 

 

 

Yours truly,

David Stiles

[edzo]

Dear David,

I did not understand either given the banner i posted below made me curious as well. I originally thought it might help localizing and dating the tsuba as well. Maybe i'm just showing my ignorance, just trying to make a contribution as the site has been so helpful to me. Ed

Banners.pdf

[Soshin]

Hi Ed,

 

Its good that you are researching the tsuba design using different sources focusing on period banners, armor, and clothing. I think this is a good approach to dating the tsuba as family kamon and banner designs did change over time and there evolution are for the most part documented.

 

 

 

Yours truly,

David Stiles