Cello Posted December 2, 2011 Report Posted December 2, 2011 Does this read Bishu osafune ???? mitsu. I can't make out the one charcter .It is also dated on the reverse side of which I have no images of as of yet. Quote
leo Posted December 2, 2011 Report Posted December 2, 2011 Hi, Cello, looking at this image made me slide futher and further back on my chair, hoping it might get sharper By the way,I see no Kuni in the mei. A better photo would make an ID easier. Regards, Martin Quote
Cello Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Posted December 2, 2011 Sorry for the blurry vasoline on the lens image lol... The pic isn't my handy work . So the first part would read bishu ju osafune??I won't be able to take pics until I get the sword to inspect next week trying to get a jump on translation since I'm pretty bad at it, but I'm trying! Quote
leo Posted December 2, 2011 Report Posted December 2, 2011 First part says only Bishu Osafune, the rest is difficult to see right now but would be no problem with a better picture. Cheers, Quote
Cello Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Posted December 2, 2011 Thanks for the attempt Martin..I'll post some good images of both sides as soon as I can. Quote
Cello Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Posted December 6, 2011 So going by this blurry pic I guessing it may read Sukesada? Being that's a common mei and by the placement of what strikes I can make out... I've read that the blades which are dated may be of a better quality than non dated? I've seen that there is quite a bit of discussion out there about this so not sure what is true. Quote
uwe Posted December 7, 2011 Report Posted December 7, 2011 Maybe "Sukesada" better pics needed. There is another "rule", blades signet "Bishu Osafune............" are of lower quality or even "kazu-uchi-mono". Simply not true, as far as I know. Same thing with the "nengo rumor". It`s always difficult with generalizations :? Uwe Quote
Cello Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Posted December 12, 2011 Here are the new pics of both sides.So is bishu osafune sukesada is correct? As for the date ni ...shi ...??? I'm confused on how to read this any help would be great.I've picked up quite a bit from this site as far as reading kanji but I'm still terrible at it. I wish I had more time to dedicate to studying or to take some classes. Quote
Grey Doffin Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 Marcello, Correct on the mei and the date reads, "Ni Gatsu Hi", a day in the 2nd month. It is unusual but not unheard of for the date to tell you only this much. Grey Quote
John A Stuart Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 Did someone wire brush this? That only indicates 'a day of the second month'. The other kanji have been obscured. John Grey answered as I was posting. There seems to be faint remnants above it. J Quote
Cello Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Posted December 12, 2011 I don't think It was brushed,so most of that grey shine is a camera effect but it does look as if it's been rubbed with maybe a little oil. I can't see any other characters above it in person though. But given the sukesada and quality I think I have the date range give or take some years and most likely a bundled type sword correct..... Quote
NihontoEurope Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 Hello, I think it could be Bishu Osafune Sukenaga - 祐永. Well, it is an option. The chiselmarks and size reminds me how made his signature. What looks a bit strange/awkward is the distance between the -shu and the Osa-. /Martin Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 My eyes are seeing 定 at the end but the kanji before that... If everyone agrees it's a Suke- kanji then I'll go along with that. Quote
Cello Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Posted December 14, 2011 Well thanks for all the responses...I can't even see the second to last kanji at all :? I guess the consensus is sukesada after going over the blade I found some other problems with it so it's back in the hands of it's owner but thanks again for all the information.I definitly learned a little..... Quote
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