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Posted

Hi,

 

I've recently come across a Honami Koson origami and I've tried my best at the translation.

Can someone help me to fill in the blanks?

 

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1.

x gatsu san hi Honami Koson (kao)

x 月 三 日 来阿

 

2.

Showa x x nen Hinoe Inu (1947? not sure at all of the zodiac date)

昭和 x x 年 丙 戌

 

3.

daikin shi? x hyaku go mai (value (at least?) x? 150 gold coins)

代金 子 x 百 五 拾枚

 

4.

shoshin

正真

 

4a.

kan kore o-suriage x mei o (most difficult part - can't read much into it, unsure about some kanji)

鑑之 大磨 x 銘 御

 

4b.

nagasa ni shaku san sun x bu yo (length over 2 shaku 3 sun x bu)

長 弐尺 参寸 x分 余

 

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Taima Kuniyuki

当麻 國行

Posted

当麻國行

 

正真 

 

長貮尺参寸壹分余

右之大磨上無銘也

 

代金子参百五拾枚

 

昭和貮拾壹年戌 

 

霜月三日 本阿「花押」

 

Good Luck :glee:

Posted

Thanks a lot for the help, Markus!

 

Still have some problems with 2-3-4 - I think I got 1 right now.

 

2nd attempt:

 

1.

shimotsuki san hi Honami Koson (kao) (3rd day in november)

霜月 三 日 来阿 「花押」

 

2.

Showa x x nen Hinoe Inu (1952? no zodiac date ending in Inu matches - 1st year of something)

昭和 貮拾 壹 年 戌

 

3.

daikin shi sun hyaku go mai (value "at least" 350 gold coins? how does 子 translate?)

代金 子 参 百 五 拾枚

 

4.

shoshin

正真

 

4a.

sukekore o-suriage mumei ya (how does 右之 translate? this item? and what does 也 mean?)

右之 大磨上 無銘 也

 

4b.

nagasa ni shaku san sun ichi bu yo (length over 2 shaku 3 sun 1 bu)

長 弐尺 参寸 壹分 余

 

5

Taima Kuniyuki

当麻 國行

Posted

1.

shimotsuki san hi Honami Koson (kao) (3rd day in november)

霜月 三 日 来阿 「花押」

I would read "san hi" as "mikka"

 

2.

Showa x x nen Hinoe Inu (1952? no zodiac date ending in Inu matches - 1st year of something)

昭和 貮拾 壹 年 戌

Shôwa nijûichi-nen inu, 1946, year of the dog

 

3.

daikin shi sun hyaku go mai (value "at least" 350 gold coins? how does 子 translate?)

代金 子 参 百 五 拾枚

The 子 translates in combination with the previous two kanji as "dai-kinsu"

 

4a.

sukekore o-suriage mumei ya (how does 右之 translate? this item? and what does 也 mean?)

右之 大磨上 無銘 也

也 is just a classical form of "to be", i.e. "it is ô-suriage"

The first two 右之 puzzle me too. Usually I would expect "tadashi" (但) here. Usually the part

右 refers to the previous line, the line to the right. Maybe it reads just as "migi kore", i.e.

"the mentioned item is ô-suriage mumei". Maybe one of our Japanese members could solve

this that we can be 100% sure. :bowdown:

Posted

Oh, thanks for clearing up that one.

 

鑑之大磨上無銘也

kangamite kore, ô-suriage mumei nari

Roughly translated as "it´s ô-suriage mumei but judged this [as authentic]"

 

I completely forgot that thread... :)

Posted
Thanks a lot for the help, Markus!

Still have some problems with 2-3-4 - I think I got 1 right now.

2nd attempt:

1.

shimotsuki san hi Honami Koson (kao) (3rd day in november)霜月三 日阿 「花押」

(霜月三日 本阿)Shimo-tsuki, mikka, Hon-A.

2.

Showa x x nen Hinoe Inu (1952? no zodiac date ending in Inu matches - 1st year of something)

昭和 貮拾 壹 年 戌

Showa niju-ichi-nen, Inu. 1946

3.

daikin shi sun hyaku go mai(value "at least" 350 gold coins? how does 子 translate?)

代金子参百五拾枚

(dai,kinsu,sanbyaku-goju-mai ).

 

4.

shoshin

正真

 

4a.

sukekore o-suriage mumei ya (how does 右之 translate? this item? and what does 也 mean?)

有之 、大磨上 無銘 也

 

長弐尺参寸壹分余有之(Nagasa,Ni-shaku,San-zun,Ichi-bu yo,kore-ari).

 

4b.

nagasa ni shaku san sun ichi bu yo (length over 2 shaku 3 sun 1 bu)

長 弐尺 参寸 壹分 余 ---有之

 

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Taima Kuniyuki

当麻 國行

 

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Hi,Zanshin

 

Old Japanese document is read to the left from the right.

You have translated from the end of a document. :glee:

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Posted

I know, Morita-sama,

 

It's my western brain that keeps pointing me in the wrong direction!

At least now the 2 first kanji 有之 make sense. Thanks for the correction.

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