Dewa501 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Posted August 27, 2011 Hi All. I have just come across a Yari signed Kawachi no Kami Monju Kunisada (I think!) interestingly, it also has an impressed seal, something that I have not come across on a Yari before, can anyone shed any light on the seal or the smith? Thanks. Chris F. Quote
David McDonald Posted August 28, 2011 Report Posted August 28, 2011 Dear Chris I think you miss typed and mean Kanesada not Kuni sada. In Hawley there is the listing KAN 271 Kawachi no Kami Kanesada Yamato and later in Edo worked around 1673-88 Itame, suguba and notare sharp 30 points Did not find an oshigata with the Monju in his signature. good luck david mcdonald Dewa501 said: Hi All. I have just come across a Yari signed Kawachi no Kami Monju Kunisada (I think!) interestingly, it also has an impressed seal, something that I have not come across on a Yari before, can anyone shed any light on the seal or the smith?Thanks. Chris F. Quote
Jacques Posted August 28, 2011 Report Posted August 28, 2011 Hi, Monju Kanesada was in Shinto Yamato tegai school, according Fujishiro he could be the last descendant of Washû Tegai Kanenaga. I know nothing about teh seal. Another yari (ryo-shinogi zukuri) with the same mei and seal (less visible). Hada is itame with masame (nagare gokoro) and chikei. Quote
Dewa501 Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Posted August 28, 2011 David, Morita, Jacques, Yes, a slip of the keyboard! Kane it is. Thank you all for your input, I was just interested to see the seal, has anyone seen the seal on any other of his works? Jacques, lovely looking yari, must have my little one polished! Thanks. Chris F. Quote
Viper6924 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Posted August 28, 2011 Hi Guys! What does this "Kawachi" means? I haven´t been able to find a good translation. I have a jumonji yari with the mei "Kawati (Kawachi) no kami sukesade bizen koku osafune ju". I think the seal is very intresting. Never seen anything like this before. /Jan Quote
Jacques Posted August 28, 2011 Report Posted August 28, 2011 Hi, Quote What does this "Kawachi" means? I haven´t been able to find a good translation Here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawachi_Province Quote
Viper6924 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Posted August 28, 2011 As always Jacques, THANK YOU! Jan Quote
Jean Posted August 28, 2011 Report Posted August 28, 2011 Jan, You should read a minimum, the last question is a very basic one. You should read Dr Stein's website, at minimum google the name ... Quote
loui Posted August 28, 2011 Report Posted August 28, 2011 I love yari, do you have pictures of the jumonji yari? Regards, Louis Quote
Viper6924 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Louis; I will post a pic when I come home. Look out Jean; You are right. In this case, the Japanese I bought the yari from told me the first word was "Kawati" which I´ve not been able to find anywhere. When I saw the word kawachi, I just jumped on it. I still find it a bit strange. The mei reads "Kawachi no kami sukesade bizen koku osafune ju". Whats does it really mean? Kawachi, Bizen and Osafune are all geographic names. A bit confusing Have mercy, Jean /Jan Quote
Jean Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Kawachi no kami is a title which was granted to the smith about title, this is the list of title granted to smiths : http://www.sho-shin.com/titles.htm The rest: it is always translated starting from bottom: "sukesade bizen koku osafune ju". ju: inhabitant/resident Osafune: biggest smiths town/village during Koto time Koku or Kuni: Province Bizen: name of the province Kawachi no Kami Sukesada resident of Osafune in the province of Bizen. Quote
Viper6924 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 A big THANKS on the info, Jean! You are the man regarding Bizen... and probably more. I include the mei so You can doublecheck Louis, here´s the pics. Hope You like. Thanks again, Jean! Jan Quote
Toryu2020 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Posted August 30, 2011 Chris - Can you post a close up of the seal? So far I have found two oshigata by this smith but none with seal. Fujishiro nor any of the other references I have checked make no mention. Fukunaga only talks about kokuin in the Shinshinto period, though we know of course tsunami were using hotstamps before that. Interesting question, - t Quote
Dewa501 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Posted September 3, 2011 Hi All. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all, have been away for two days. Hear is a better pic of the seal. Tsubako ???? Explain! Thanks Thomas. Quote
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