stace Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 another request for any learned thoughts by the collective expertise is appreciated. I realize not being in hand, opinions are difficult and just an educated guess. but the respected knowledge of this forum is second to none. this tanto was a gift from my aikido sensei. nakago is 7.8 cm nagasa is 17.7 cm mu mei with suguba hamon boshi has nice turn-back gold habaki any thoughts as to school, age, worth a polish or shinsa? etc. thanks very much in advance!! Stace G. Quote
Grey Doffin Posted July 24, 2011 Report Posted July 24, 2011 Hi Stace, No earlier than later Shinshinto because the yasurime are kesho and I don't believe that was done before. 19th century or very early 20th would be my guess. Grey Quote
Lee Bray Posted July 24, 2011 Report Posted July 24, 2011 Kesho yasurime don't necessarily denote Shinshinto. I thought the same but I think it was Jacques that posted an example some time back and since then, I've seen a couple of examples. Here's a papered Sukenao from 1670's - http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/katana/10494.html In this case, though, I think you're right. The take-no-ko-zori sugata combined with the fairly full boshi and kaeri suggest Shinshinto to me. The nakago ana still seem to have a slight burr around the edge so no old age there. Also, the clear line marking the border between nakago patina and polished steel (sabi-giwa ?). That's something I see on Shinshinto blades but not before. As to school and smith...no idea... Quote
Jean Posted July 24, 2011 Report Posted July 24, 2011 If you read the Nagayama Kokan, you will see that Kesho yasurime appeared in Shinto. Just a tip for ubu sword, when providing pictures, be sure to post one (taken from above) of the mune machi - Nakago. This will give a hint of the number of polishes the blade has had and thus and indication of its age. Quote
stace Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Posted July 24, 2011 thanks very much for the great insights and thoughts. Shinshinto sounds most likely. attached are a few more pics (mune machi and mekugi ana). more thoughts welcome and thanks again!!! Stace G. Quote
Jean Posted July 24, 2011 Report Posted July 24, 2011 Yes, it seems from the pictures that the sword had few polishes. I'll go for Shin Shinto. Quote
stace Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Posted July 29, 2011 Thanks again everyone for your thoughts. shin shinto it must be.... any other thoughts on school or region of Japan? saya any indicator? many thanks domo arigato!! Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Agree on shinshinto, but would hesitate to have koshirae as indicator of where the blade originated from. The two mekugi-ana indicate that in it's relatively short life, it has already been remounted and the koshirae is most likely not the original mounts. Quote
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