estcrh Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 Awhile back I posted a couple of pictures of this ryo shinogi fukuro yari or a diamond shaped blade with two cutting edges and a socket instead of a nakago. It is signed ( Nobukuni?) and has an unusual 48 inch shaft (ebu) which is faceted and very thick towards the end cap (ishizuki). There is a hole through the ishizuki with a fitting for a hand strap. It was being called a kago yari but I think it is another type. The blade is actually riveted to the ebu and the rivet looks quite old. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 Nice. I like the ishidzuki. Can we see a piccie of the rivet, Eric? Are you sure it is not a screw that has been damaged? You know the threads traditionally went the 'wrong' way and people often screw them up! :lol: Quote
mdiddy Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 Chikuzen Nobukuni school were known for making fukuro yari for Kuroda clan in Fukuoka. Quote
Clive Sinclaire Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 Hi Eric These are interesting and practical things I think. I have a similar signed Minamoto Nobukuni Kanetsugu which is mounted as a makura-yari. I understand that they were considered by the Kuroda clan, easily afixed to a new pole if the old one was broken in combat, unlike those with a nakago. Regards Clive Sinclaire Quote
estcrh Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Posted June 9, 2011 Here is a better picture of the rivet, I guess someone did not want to take a chance of the mekugi coming out at an inappropriate moment. I have read that some yari had faceted shafts but this is the first one I have seen. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 Cannot recall having seen a 'rivet' like that. Always a first time, though! Does it look the same on both sides? Quote
cabowen Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 I have seen a dozen or so fukuro yari, all signed Nobukuni, over the years....Actually, I don't think I have ever seen one that wasn't signed Nobukuni..... Quote
Dewa501 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 Hi Eric. Very nice Nobukuni fukuro yari indeed, although lacking the usual bonji on one side and futasuji-bi on the other which seems to be a charicteristic of Nobukuni. also usually with two peg holes through the socket at right angles to each other, the faceted Nagaye is also unusual to see, none of my yari have one, incidentally the hole though the ishizuki is to retain the spear in a yari kake, found at check points and barriers, (so i've been told) Chris F. Quote
estcrh Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Posted June 9, 2011 Dewa501 said: Hi Eric. Very nice Nobukuni fukuro yari indeed, although lacking the usual bonji on one side and futasuji-bi on the other which seems to be a charicteristic of Nobukuni. also usually with two peg holes through the socket at right angles to each other, the faceted Nagaye is also unusual to see, none of my yari have one, incidentally the hole though the ishizuki is to retain the spear in a yari kake, found at check points and barriers, (so i've been told)Chris F. Chris, I havnt seen two mekugi-ana on a socketed yari before, any pictures of that? I have read that yari with the hole in the ishizuki were for horse mounted yari use, your possible use is interesting. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 10, 2011 Report Posted June 10, 2011 Yari kake, teppou kake, generally tend to have strings on them and I have always thought it was for safety in earthquakes. More than one usage. But I do like your example, Eric. Quote
estcrh Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Posted June 10, 2011 Piers, the rivet goes through both sides and both heads look the same. This yari sat unsold for several years even though in my opinion it was very fairly priced, partly because the web site was hard to navigate and also because the images of it did not show how nice it really looked. I now use a program called IrfanView to crop and enlarge areas of photos before buying in order to get a better view when no more images of an item are available. Quote
Dewa501 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Posted June 10, 2011 Hi Eric. A hasty pic of two Nobukuni fukuro yari showing the two cross holes through the socket, the larger yari has had its socket lacquered first red then black, also shows the bonji on both blades, you may have to enlarge to see details. Regards. Chris F. Quote
estcrh Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Posted June 10, 2011 Thanks Chris, I can see just fine. Now thats something I have never seen mentioned or pictured. Thats the first I have heard of yari having two mekugi-ana. Quote
drdata Posted June 10, 2011 Report Posted June 10, 2011 Eric, I should go shopping with you; always such interesting stuff. Thanks for the tip on irfan view. Been using windoze office pic manager for the same and its weak. Cheers Quote
estcrh Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Posted June 17, 2011 Clive Sinclaire said: Hi EricThese are interesting and practical things I think. I have a similar signed Minamoto Nobukuni Kanetsugu which is mounted as a makura-yari. I understand that they were considered by the Kuroda clan, easily afixed to a new pole if the old one was broken in combat, unlike those with a nakago. Regards Clive Sinclaire Clive, if you happen to read this, the makura-yari you mention, is it the one pictured in your book? Quote
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