Attibuted as Ko-mihara?

[Grey Doffin]

Hi Jim,

The paper has this to say about the hada (as translated by Harry Watson): "A mixture of mokume and nagare masame in itame, overall it is hadatachi, with ji-nie, chikei is inserted, jifu is mixed in, and there is a hint of faint shirake."

"Hamon: A mixture of k0-gunome in chu-suguba, there is hotsure, yubashiri, and nijuba in the habuchi, there is fine ashi and yo, with thick nie, there are kinsuji and sunagashi, and the nioi-guchi is bright and serene."

"Boshi: Shallow notarekomi, saki is ko-maru, and the nie is strong, and there is nijuba and hakkake."

And here are 3 pictures; hope they help.

Grey

[Jim P]

Thanks so much Grey,No run of the mill Ko-mihara, I thought it must have some interesting traits and it does.

is hadatachi seen much Ko-mihara ? my understanding is its hada that has a easy to see texture ? thank you

[Jean]

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hada that has a easy to see the texture

 

Jim,

 

You are entirely right. Here is one from my Naoe Shizu Tachi

[Jim P]

Hi Jean,that's why I found it an interesting description of a Ko-mihara I don't think I have seen it used for one. thanks

PS nice pic jean

[cabowen]

  Grey Doffin said:

Hi Jim,

The paper has this to say about the hada (as translated by Harry Watson): "A mixture of mokume and nagare masame in itame

Grey

 

never heard of nagare masame and am having trouble picturing that......

[John A Stuart]

Nagare 流れ is running or streaming. Nagare masame 流れ柾 a really stretched out long grain pattern. I consider this a descriptive of the typical pattern of Mino den shinogiji. John

[cabowen]

I am familiar with the terminology but to say that masame is running is a bit of an oxymoron.....

[John A Stuart]

I think there is differentiation needed when the structure appears more extended than usual; like masame in the hiraji (which doesn't run normally in Yamato den) as compared to Mino masame in the shinogiji. Just as examples. Otherwise I agree, it would be an oxymoron. John

[Jean]

John,

 

I am like Chris, I have heard of flowing Itame but never of flowing Masame. Where can we find examples (pictures) shocing the diffrenece between Masame and Flowing Masame. Is flowing Masame starts from Machi to Kissaki? How could it be defined?

 

How would you labeled Kunikane hada?

[John A Stuart]

You'll have to give me time for that one Jean. John

[nagamaki - Franco]

'Speak of the devil', just this evening I was in conversation with Barry Hennick about a Ko Mihara sword that I wrote a kantei paper for, for one of our past study group meetings. It happens that this sword had exactly what is described as "running masame" on one side. In this case the ji hada which was predominantly mokume mixed with ko mokume had a band of masame flowing down the center of the mokume. But, much like a running stream that might have good size rocks creating still pools of water here and there forcing the straight running water to "meander", this band of masame was interspersed with pools of mokume/itame, even though the masame ran for almost the entire length of the sword. I think that it is this meandering of the masame that creates a running effect much like a stream or brook of water.

[John A Stuart]

It isn't so uncommon as you would think. See this, http://www.geocities.jp/me20030706/suguha.html Here they use the term in the sense of flowing. And here http://www.l-wise.co.jp/super-jsa/aucti ... ode=detail And here http://www.tsuruginoya.com/mn1_3/a00108.html And here http://sinogi.dee.cc/katarogu/2012/mume ... k8954.html Some have pics that show the feature. John