Cello Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I decided to remove the inner wooden part of the WWII gunto sayaa which I have learned houses a mutsu no kami kaneyasu katana,to clean it out and remove the wood dust and splinters to find this writing on it... Does anyone know the significance and is it common?? Quote
Henry Wilson Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 一六六 和 野口 166 Wa Noguchi Noguchi is a family name. Wa can be read as Kazu if it is name of man, but because of the fact that 和 is written slightly smaller and off set to the side it could be a marker or a group title or something like that. If the saya is gunto the whole inscription could be a unit number and name of unit member. Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 Maybe the 和 isn't part of the name, but, style of construction. Japanese style, as opposed to Western style for Kyugunto. ??? John Quote
Cello Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Posted April 16, 2011 So do you think it's the ne of the person the sword wasmountef for or the name of the person would made the mounts?? Thanks Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 I am thinking it is the craftsman's name, along with reference numbers. This is seen on saya and tsuka traditionally. That being maybe so, it might not be, nothing is in stone. John Quote
george trotter Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 I think it is probably as John says. I have seen a number of these liners with a what appears to be a name and a number. I think, like what is found in pencil/ink sometimes on the "mouth" of the tsuka, under the fuchi, it is the sayashi's name and "account" number (like the numbers found on RJT tangs). These are how he keeps track of how much he is owed and how the company/army can track back in case they need to. Geo. Quote
Cello Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Posted April 18, 2011 Great thanks for the info.. It was an interesting little suprise to find! Quote
Bazza Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Great thanks for the info.. It was an interesting little suprise to find! Now, Dear Sir, how about some pics of your Mutsu no Kami Kaneyasu?? Please... Regards, BaZZa. Quote
Alan Morton Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Hello Sir BaZZa, is this the same smith as the Juyo Kaneyasu from the Art Gallery NSW? Very fine diplay of yours at the moment there . Alan PS. We are stockpiling reds for your visit. A&S Quote
Alan Morton Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 BaZZA, just found a link to his Photos of Kaneyasu blade and nakago in his Profile. Alan. Quote
Alan Morton Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Hi all I stand corrected the Yuyo sword at the Art Gallery of NSW is Kuniyasu belonging to Colin Mc Donald and not a Kaneyasu. Alan. Quote
MikeS Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Hi Barry, Alan and the rest of you. There are more photos of the sword being dicussed here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10094 The sword in the AGNSW is I believe Horikawa Kuniyasu. The sword in The Australian Museum is Hidari Kaneyasu. Both worth checking out if your in Sydney. Cheers. Mike Smith Sydney Australia Quote
MikeS Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Just been informed that the Horikawa Kuniyasu is not on display at the AGNSW. Sorry. None the less, what ever is on display is still worth a visit. Cheers. Mike Smith Sydney Australia. Quote
Cello Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Posted April 21, 2011 Hi, sorry haven't been on line for a bit... I've been told my sword is 2nd gen early work of kaneyasu later he signed kaneshige with out using the reverse kanji. Thanks Quote
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