Jacques Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 Hi, Jean, it is just the shadow of the oshigata paper. Quote
max Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Posted April 16, 2011 Gentlemen, When I can get to it would you like me to take photos of the bottom? Also, I believe that mark is written on the paper as well but I will have to check to verify. It was awhile ago I took the photos and the sword is not handy were I can just quickly check. Also, are there any other specific photos I should take of them. Thanks, Max Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 17, 2011 Report Posted April 17, 2011 Supposing it is not Suriage and the first Mekugiana was meant to fit a Tsuka (either alone or together with the second one) in that position, isn't it a little too low and oddly placed ? Quote
Jean Posted April 17, 2011 Report Posted April 17, 2011 I invite all of you to go to Aoi-Art link/katana. You will see all sorts of suriage katana. Look at the shape of the Nakago which were modified when shortened : http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/katana/10384.html http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/katana/10384.html http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/katana/09435.html Now have a look at the Tadamitsu I have posted on the first page, the lowest nakago ana is slightly off side, the blade is suriage and the nakago reshaped. Here is an unshortened Nakago, look at the Nakago ana. This was one was probly worn once as a tachi. Some Nakago jiri after shortening: http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/katana/09524-3.jpg http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/katana/image/08100-2.jpg http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/katana/image/07223-2.jpg In fact, all depends the way the Nakago has been reshaped or not and the way it was also worn. But It can also be perfectly intact, but in this case the lowest mekugi ana has not much much sense as written by Carlo Quote
Jacques Posted April 17, 2011 Report Posted April 17, 2011 Hi, I think it as been first in tachi mounts and later mounted as a katana. another example of an ubu nakago : Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 17, 2011 Report Posted April 17, 2011 Jacques D. said: I think it as been first in tachi mounts and later mounted as a katana.] Makes sense, however still seems a little low and misplaced not excluding Suriage is the reason of such placement. Kiri nakagojiri is a feature of the school you suppose the sword belongs to ? Quote
Jacques Posted April 17, 2011 Report Posted April 17, 2011 Hi, carlo, the picture of the other side of the nakago shows a (flat) kurijiri nakagojiri, Nagasa is the usual one for this era (around Oei) the nakago FWIS seems to have its own sori, maybe i'm wrong but i see nothing in this blade which leads me saying it is suriage, of course based on poor pictures. Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 17, 2011 Report Posted April 17, 2011 Jacques D. said: the picture of the other side of the nakago shows a (flat) kurijiri nakagojiri Ah, my fault, I skipped to look at the imageshack link. Indeed the other side of Nakagojiri looks as you say there. I wonder how much it can be due to angle (either case), as still nakagoana seems a bit low to me, but I'm now less convinced of my statement than before... Quote
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