EricM Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 hello Little question for the board, are mon on kai gunto always on menuki? Are the 2 menuki with mon or only one? I came accross 2 kai gunto, one had a mon on the kashira (like on shingunto) and one had only one menuki with a mon so i was wondering if there were any standards like on shingunto! thx eric Quote
Mark Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Eric i do not think there is a "standard" even for army. I have seen army mons on the fuchi, menuki and where they usually are on the end fitting. I have seen navy on the same areas. as i side note i have an army fuchi with a "mon" on ebay now, i do not see them located there very often http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :MESELX:IT Quote
george trotter Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Hi Eric, over many years I have seen mon on fuchi, kashira and menuki, for both army and navy. When on menuki (in my experience) they have been only on one. When on the fuchi, they have been much smaller than when on menuki or kashira...the one on ebay at the moment is the biggest I have seen on a fuchi, again, in my experience, they are much smaller when here. Finding them on the menuki is rare and on the fuchi even rarer still. Hope this helps. George. Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Also, the problem of Kamon on any WWII sword, though often very nicely done, is that it says nothing about the "samurai" family provenance. Since 1868, more and more Kamon became used by regular families, and lost their earlier meaning of clan or old lineage. It becomes especially apparent on swords with the crossed arrow theme as mon. This clan mark survived untill 1871 as Asano. In 1869 the Kazoku system was introduced for noble families, which in 1946 was abolished. By that time many Kamon had lost a large part of their ancient meaning except for the Chrysanthemum mon of the Imperial family. see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazoku http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamon_%28crest%29 http://www.jedi.co.jp/sekizai/kamon/kamon.html Also interesting is : An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Japanese Family Crests ISBN-13: 978-4-88996-070-9 KM Quote
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