newbi need help with Mei

[Cello]

Hi. I'm new to collecting but have been a student of budo for a while.I'm looking for some help translating a mei any help would be greatly appreciated thank you.sword 1 sword2

[Stephen]

does your mom call you Jello? please add your name per sign on rules, if your a good student of budo, you can do some study of kanji of nihonto...first one is free.

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~ttstein/kanemit3.jpg

[Cello]

sorry about that I'm not versed in the use of message boards they were never my thing...I'll answer to jello from most.But for this site Marcello will do lol .I've trained Togakure Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu,Kukishinden Ryu Happo Bikenjutsu,ect. Unfortunately I have yet to spend any serious study in the written language. Thanks for the traslation I really appreciate it!..... on the wakizashi i've come up with tomo maybe??and kan??ju ??? saku on the katana.So I was kinda close on the katana not sure about the older wak ...close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades right..!Also does anyone have any suggestions of books to start with to learn how to read sword mei??

thx

Marcello

[Jamie]

This might help you

 

http://www.jssus.org/nkp/index.html

 

Best of luck!

 

Jamie

[Cello]

Thanks for the link I've browsed that site a few times very helpful.How does one go about narrowing down a translation is it just matching kanji???Also I've looked up a few examples of the mei online the all look to have a different style than mine.Is this a showato to or a nihonto blade?Anyone have a clue about the Wakizashi mei??

thanks

marcello

[Stephen]

well as you may have learned that part of your mei is missing i think the first kanji maybe Tomo..wed have to kanti the blade to narrow it down to which tomo.

[Cello]

Sorry for the lack of knowledge but what is kanti exactly?? I assume it means evaluate the traits of the sword ??

[Grey Doffin]

Marcello,

Kantei is judging the maker/school of the sword by study of the sword's attributes: hamon, grain, shape, steel, etc.

Grey

[Toryu2020]

Jello -

Start you adventure with 'The Samurai Sword by John M. Yumoto' and don't mind Old Stephen he may not be a fan of the Dead Kennedys...

-t

[Stephen]

Old Stephen he may not be a fan of the Dead Kennedys...

-t

yep more of a Dead head

[Cello]

Jerry is good is small doses only...thx for the recommended reading I've read a few books I'm not so bad with evaluating the physical characteristics. I teal just seem to get lost with the kanji it's feels like I'm trying to find a needle in a hay stack most of rhe time.

 

Cello

[Toryu2020]

Jello-

If it's kanji study, then many sword books will only give you a "survey" of the most commonly used characters. For some this is all that is needed. However if you truly want to make sense of it all you have to put in some time studying the language. Start with Hiragana and Katakana and then onto first grade kanji and off you go. The initial investment in study time is often a turn-off for new students of this subject but listen to the old farts for they can tell you that little investment pays off in big ways later, usually by helping you avoid serious buying mistakes.

"A friend of the devil is a friend of mine..."

-t

[tokashikibob]

Jello-

If it's kanji study, then many sword books will only give you a "survey" of the most commonly used characters. For some this is all that is needed. However if you truly want to make sense of it all you have to put in some time studying the language. Start with Hiragana and Katakana and then onto first grade kanji and off you go. The initial investment in study time is often a turn-off for new students of this subject but listen to the old farts for they can tell you that little investment pays off in big ways later, usually by helping you avoid serious buying mistakes.

"A friend of the devil is a friend of mine..."

-t

A Japanese girlfriend or wife will work best for kanji, and comes with additional benefits, a good penpal will due in a pinch!

[Cello]

I like you solution the best lol!! Have any on hand I can borrow?? Haha... I do see how valuable it is to be able to read kanji and not have to spend so much time looking it up and matching ect...

Thx

Cello

[Cello]

Hi I posted some pics i was asked take of the blade to help figure out if it's kanemitsu work. It's under mei translation.. "kanemitsu showato or nihonto"......

 

thanks for all your help everyone,

 

-cello