Tanto

[Andrey]

Hello

Just new tanto in my collection. Need your coments...

[Andrey]

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[loui]

Sorry, you bought a knock off.

 

Louis

[Andrey]

  Louis Skebo said:

Sorry, you bought a knock off.

 

Louis

 

Thank you Louis!

I suspect it.

[Brian]

Obvious fake, and a bad one too.

There is little here that would scream "genuine" so you really need to hit the books a bit more Andrey.

To me, the first thing is the shape of the nakago and how carefully it is made and how fluid the lines are. Any roughness or skew lines are reasons to look closer.

 

Brian

[Jamie]

Andrey,

Sorry that you purchased a fake. Hopefully it didn't set you back much. We all make mistakes-so don't let this deter your interest.

 

take a look at this link and it will give you a good Idea of fakes.

 

http://jssus.org/nkp/fake_japanese_swords.html

 

You might also consider purchasing the following books and reading them. Together they will give you a solid foundation of knowledge.

 

Samurai Sword: A Handbook

~John Yumato

The Japanese Sword: A Comprehensive Guide (Japanese Arts Library)

~ Kanzan Sato

The Connoisseurs Book of Japanese Swords

~ Kokan Nagayama

[Grey Doffin]

Hi Andrey,

Not to pile on, but you bought a real stinker; nearly everything about it should have been a warning. You need to spend serious time (and maybe serious money) on books and study before you buy blades. Do everything you can think of to learn, and then do some more. Only with knowledge and experience will you be able to buy a sword you'll be proud to own and able to appreciate.

Grey

[Andi B.]

To distinguish between (obvious) fakes and real Nihonto is the first hurdle to take.

The first quick thing one can do prior buying a Japanese blade is trying to see real Nihonto as much as possible (live and on images).

Of course you will be not able to judge the quality, age and origin of real blades without learning but you can identify possible fakes.

 

With a little experience, it is not so difficult to recognise the similiarities of real (even very different) blades - the overall "image" & "feeling" created by the shape, the lines, the proportions of tang, blade and tip, color/rust, hada & hamon etc. makes them easily distinguishable from common fakes. Learning by comparing -> the differences will become more and more visible. At least you will get a feeling which says "Hands off - this looks suspicious!".

[Andrey]

Thanks all for your help. This particular blade was not expensive, and I bought it on a whim, many of which pay of, but in this particular instance, I can see not. I feel comforted to know that so many of you were quick to identify the faults, and clearly I need to study more.I have entered into a new realm of collection, and hope to be able to identify the signs more competently, as have you (collectively ) before my next purchase. Thankfully, I did not pay too much money, but hopefully won't make the same mistake in the future. Many thanks for the information and I am searching for the books now to give me a good general comprehension of Japanese swords.

[Peter Bleed]

Others have pointed you positively in good direction. And we all make mistakes. But let me just add, "GREEN! What were you thinking?"

Peter

[Ted Tenold]

  Peter Bleed said:

Others have pointed you positively in good direction. And we all make mistakes. But let me just add, "GREEN! What were you thinking?"

Peter

 

 

Poor little stingray...

[Stephen]

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Not all of Andreys buys have been Green