sencho Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Gutted.... my "live auction" bid didn't go through fast enough and a floor bidder got this for 12 dollars US..... Any comments on it?? Cheers Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Hi Nigel, Well, $12 bucks for a Goto fuchi? Not bad if legit. Even so looks like real good work. The first two kanji are Goto, Chinese reading, but the second two seem to be Nobuyoshi. The Nobu and Yoshi kanji, Japanese reading, seem to be common among mainline Goto. I'll check the books and see if I can find a match, may take awhile. Drat eh? John Quote
sencho Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Posted February 1, 2007 Yep.... I had a 20 dollar bid going in whcih would have probably taken it, I was the only internet bidder for this item, but the bloody computer locked up on me.... by the time it had registered (just a few seconds) the auctioneer had closed the bidding..... so I was stuffed!! The first bid from the floor got it after it had been already lowered from $50.... The guide estimate was 200 - 300, but I am not sure where they got that from... totally bummed!!! I had to go and open a bottle of finest shochu after that!! :x Thanks John for the info Cheers! Quote
Nobody Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Hi, The mei might be 後藤誠意 (Goto Seii (or Masaoki...)?; unsure about the reading). Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Hi Koichi-san, Here is one of those mei where do you use on or kun reading. If mei is Sei would it not be Seikei? I can't find any mei that starts 'masa' but plenty that end 'masa'. Of course I can not find Nobuyoshi either. I do not have the waki-goto Nigel. It may be in that group. John Quote
Nobody Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Hi John, Though I do not know the correct reading for 誠意, he seems to be a man of Goto school at Bakumatsu (end of Edo period). Ref. http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~turugi/newpage10.htm Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Hi Koichi-san, I had the last one off by a stroke or two. Saw the site and then looked up the list of metal workers that used those two kanji together. Lo and behold the only combination is 'Seii'. Still can't find him in the Goto book I have. So, can't compare to another example. Thanks, John Quote
sencho Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Posted February 1, 2007 Thanks Moriyama san and John, Yes i have the same problem... I have no reference materials for this.... and as I did not manage to buy the thing I guess it does not matter.... just wanted to torture myself about what I missed!!!! :lol: ...and maybe further my education a little :? Maybe some of the Tosogu 'spurts will have some reference material and a further idea... Milt? Rich T?.... Cheers! Quote
Bungo Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 kapitan, get the kinko meikan ( the new edition with mei samples ), also the haynes catalogs, various famous collections sales catalogs from Sotheby's/Christie's and you are good to play ............... p.s. 12 bucks for a Goto .......very good deal even if it pinkies at shinsa. milt the ronin Quote
Marc BROQUIN Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Hello Sencho, I come back on your old post related to this Fuchi you posted in 2007, as far as I progressively look at all the past discussions. The signature is after HAYNES GOTO SEI-I (H.08047.0). Working in Edo, he apprently was born in 1795 and signed a piece dated 1867. He was a student of GOTO SEIJO. Source W-372-U-1, W-405-L-1, W-II-187, Kp-168. Kao is not shown. It is the only one GOTO described in Haynes. I do not have this Wakayama book to look at the mei in order to appreciate if legit or not. But as far it is not a very well known GOTO, there is a big chance it is a true one. Best Marc Quote
Ludolf Richter Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Hi Sencho,here are 3 examples from the books.Ludolf Quote
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