Kantei paper

[Thierry BERNARD]

Hi an happy new year for all of you

 

I wonder if somebody can help me to determine which organization deliver this kind of paper ( light "grey,blue" paper )

 

I furthermore would like to understand the main facts of the content. So if you have some spare time

I´d be really grateful for your translation help!

 

Best regards

[Nobody]

Hi,

I only know a little about the paper from hearsay and I do not know the exact fact.

 

The name of the organization is Juho-Token-Kenkyukai (銃砲刀剣研究会). The leader of the group is Kobayashi Yukinobu (小林幸信) who seems to be a polisher. The group seems to be supported by a sword shop. The shop seems to be Musashiya (むさし屋).

http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~musasiya/token.htm

 

The paper says;

Wakizashi

Mumei (unsigned; attributed to Yamato Daijo Sukesada)

Ca. Shotoku (正徳; 1711-1716)

[Thierry BERNARD]

Hi

 

thank you Koichi san for your help

 

regards

[elliottshogun]

I have been coresponding with this appraisal group. Here's what I found.....

 

NTK - Nihon Tosogu Kenkyukai - appraiser for tosogu is Makio Saruta who also wrote book TOSOGU no BI, Fine Japanese Sword Fittings: MENUKI, 1994.

 

JTK - Juho Token Kenkyukai - appraiser for blades is Kobayashi Yukinobu.

 

I will continue to research this group.

 

Elliott

[Dr Fox]

Hi all.

 

Is there any more info on this paper, I ask as I have one here, the only difference being, this certifies as genuine a Wakizashi signed Yukimitsu.

How does this paper stack, against the other societies judgements?

I ask? As I have been tasked to give a considered opinion on this very question.

[leo]

All the information given above, is correct.

 

In addition to the light blue paper, they issue a light brown paper for better quality blades(like a TH paper).

Recently they have also turned down a lot of blades which they thought to be gimei or low quality! I think JTK is trying to gain more respect for the reliability of their kantei papers.

 

But: Regardless how valid the kantei may be, all documents except NBTHK- and NTHK-papers are meaningless for Japanese and most western collectors.

 

Regards, Martin

[BIG]

Hi Leo,

 

What's about the NTKS Papers?

 

Best Regards

[leo]

Sorry, Peter

did not see your post in time.

 

NIHONTO KANTEI SHINSAKAI is a rather newer appraisal company. The paper is plain white and they are made in the style of a Hozon paper, but much better paper and photo quality. To be honest that´s all I know about them.

If you are interested, I can photograph one.

 

I see them as a premium quality torokusho, nothing more. As for value see my previous post.

 

Regards, Martin

[Dr Fox]

All the information given above, is correct.

 

In addition to the light blue paper, they issue a light brown paper for better quality blades(like a TH paper).

Recently they have also turned down a lot of blades which they thought to be gimei or low quality! I think JTK is trying to gain more respect for the reliability of their kantei papers.

 

But: Regardless how valid the kantei may be, all documents except NBTHK- and NTHK-papers are meaningless for Japanese and most western collectors.

 

Regards, Martin

 

Thanks Martin

As the feedback is minimal, and your appraisal is what I thought, I will use your comments thanks.