jason_mazzy Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Posted October 27, 2010 these above are the only real flaws. Quote
Marius Posted October 27, 2010 Report Posted October 27, 2010 Jason, looking for comment? I am afraid it is a rather tired sword. I see a reshaped kissaki with a broken tip, very rough and bad polish, and the hamon very close to the edge in some parts. Shirasaya was made outside Japan, I presume? Don't want to discourage you, but why did you buy it? Sorry to be so blunt. Quote
jason_mazzy Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Posted October 28, 2010 It really isn't tired. My pictures are horrible. This was found at a pawn shop and they didnt know what they had. It looks koto to me, so for the price I snatched it up. there are two or 3 little ware thats it. I will most likely send it to polish, as it looks like whoever had it before was hitting it with a finger stone or practicing on it. I really wisj I knew how to take pictures. But at the end of the day a full katana with silver habaki and nice shirasaya for $200.00 is a deal to me. Quote
cabowen Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 It does appear that the hamon is either extremely narrow and close to the edge or runs off in places. The shape is quite unnatural and one can presume it has either been amateured or seen severe abuse. That aside, for $200, why not???? Quote
jason_mazzy Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Posted October 28, 2010 With as white as the blade is and how badly it obscures the details and the hamon I am thinking someone practised polishing with it, or thought they could finger stone it. In the light and at the right angle alot is seen. Then hamon even with the weird polish obscuring the work is at least 1/4 of an inch in the thinest place so, I feel it can take a polish. We will see. Quote
sanjuro Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 Jason. Just a word of caution. A polish by a real togishi (not a local, well meaning amateur with no training), will need to restore the sugata, re establish the lines and proportions of the blade and repair the kissaki. For the same price as that level of restoration you can buy a polished sword in better overall shape than this one. OK.... $200 is cheap enough for what you have got there, but think it through before you spend many times that amount on this sword. Quote
jason_mazzy Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Posted October 28, 2010 You may be right about the cost of the polish, but at the end of the day if I buy one I am buying one that is already preserved. The history behind these blades is a big attraction point to me. While monetarily it may not recoup 100% of the cost of a polish this year or next it will restore the blade and preserve it for the next generation. And I am sure if we are still around as a species in 50-100 years, someone, somewhere will be happy to have it in full polish. Quote
Henry Wilson Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 That is all very well but 10 years down the line, you might find it hard to sell it when you want to tighten your collection and shore up funds for that one big buy.... Quote
pcfarrar Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 My advice would be to get the thing on ebay you should at least double your money. Then use the profit to buy something better. The sword is definitely tired and could be a mess when polished with shintetsu, ware etc. The Katana Grey is selling in the classifieds would be a much better project for restoration: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8790 Quote
Stephen Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 really tired of the pix with the mei full of coke, please clean and show us it so I can tell if it was done with a power tool. what ya have is a 200 dollar conversation piece, and to some extent a training tool to look up each kizu and attribute nei hada etc. don't sweat it just learn from it and move onward and up ward. Quote
Eric H Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 jason_mazzy said: My pictures are horrible Indeed... I wonder what other members are able to see anything of interest in this item. It‘s a gimei specimen not worth to be treated, i.e repaired furthermore. Eric Quote
stephan_hiller Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 Hi, I agree with Peter that you should try to sell the blade on ebay to a wanna-be samurai and move on with the money to a better acquisition. Even though it may has a romantic flavour to restore any Japanese blade for "future generations" I personally prefer to stay away from these. There will be the day when you see "THE" beautiful blade you ever wanted to have and then it can be quite difficult to sell a restored junk blade. Cheers Stephan Quote
Bruno Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 jason_mazzy said: I will most likely send it to polish Jason, Do you already know to whom you will send your sword for polish? Any idea of its cost? Quote
MujiHada Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 I could put my hand into fire, that I saw sword like this on ebay. Quote
Bruno Posted October 28, 2010 Report Posted October 28, 2010 Maybe just send the sword to a togishi in order to remove the fake signature, and repatinate the nakago. Do not if it is possible? For sure it will cost you less than a full polish. Quote
jason_mazzy Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Posted October 28, 2010 Well the polish is not so much for the grain or jigane, it would be to reshape it and get the lines sharp. Something maybe to hold on to for a while. or maybe Throw it on ebay and use the money to buy some more fittings for my other nihonto. But I like old swords, I swear they speak to me lol........................ Quote
MujiHada Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &viewitem= Definetely it was on ebay. George K. Quote
moss Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Well , It was found in a porn/pawn shop Which one is Ebay? Good yarn Jason. Moss Quote
jason_mazzy Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Posted October 29, 2010 That is a pawn shop, They posted it here : http://ccpawn.com/store_grantspass.php and I called and asked for a picture. I made an offer to the manager and bam Got it! They also list the stuff to sell on ebay, and it is the best way to buy for me cuz I get paypal protection. nice try though guys. Thank you for your research tho mr. ayasugihada @ gmail.com all you had to do was ask. please sign ur posts with ur name per the rules Quote
Brian Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Jason, A heck of a lot easier to have pointed to the auction, no? By now it should be clear that with over 1500 members....nothing happens out there that isn't seen or remembered. So anything posted on the NMB...expect the background story to come out sooner rather than later. By not telling the whole story, it can look like you are hiding something. Not in this case, but something to remember. Ok..done and dusted and over now. Let's carry on.. Brian Quote
jason_mazzy Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Posted October 29, 2010 Kool, def wasn't being misleading just found it on a website for the pawn shop and better for me to buy it from their link instead of over the phone. They changed the price for me on the ad and bam I bought it and got the buyer protection incase something happened. With 1500 members I could care less who sees what I buy where. I have nothing to hide, and infact usually am dumb enough to post my stuff here. I also have posted my link to photobucket with all me nihonto "junk". My only worry is..... why would anyone care where i buy it...........? no need for me to link to the auction because it was irrelevant when i used my own pictures. Quote
MujiHada Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 No offence, I only said, what I saw . Please enjoy your new sword, with no bitter. ...I musted to create a new email(because for some reason, it did not not pass my original). Best wishes. George K. Quote
Amon Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Hi Jason! I agree totally with Chris and Erich! I find it very hard to belive that this blade will survive a new polish, to me it looks like a non survivor. And the shirasaya looks like a nightmare. Maybe you just should put it to sleep and just leave it there Kind regards 1 Quote
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