Question for the Sword-Smith

[888jojoli]

Hi Gens:

 

I got a question here, about the 聖代刀匠位列 and 関鍛治刀匠

 

I can find out some of 関鍛治刀匠 are also in 聖代刀匠位列 but not all of them, why?

 

For example: 兼光 (Kanemitsu)後藤 松蔵 from 関鍛治刀匠 and also 中作 (CHU SAKU)= 上工の列 (Joko no Retsu) = 後藤 兼光( I hope they are a same person)

But 広利 (Hirotoshi)小森 広利 is only appear in 関鍛治刀匠 list.

 

So dose it means that some of swordsmiths are not good enough to be listed in 聖代刀匠位列?

 

One more, what does 業物位列 means?

 

Cheers

 

Joe

[John A Stuart]

業物位列 A rank of wazamono -sharp sword, I believe. John

[888jojoli]

業物位列 A rank of wazamono -sharp sword, I believe. John

 

thanks John,

 

Is there any answers for 聖代刀匠位列 and 関鍛治刀匠?

 

Cheers

 

Joe

[John A Stuart]

I think you are correct that 関鍛治刀匠 Seki government tosho may not have made the list of ranking 聖代刀匠位列, but, why? I don't know for sure, maybe the type of sword crafted by certain smiths did not meet particular criteria. John

[cabowen]

Only bona fide smiths made the ranking. Many of those from the list of Seki smiths were not really trained, professional, traditional smiths making traditional blades. Most of the Seki smiths were making non-traditional showa-to.

[888jojoli]

Thanks Gens. So only the smiths in 聖代刀匠位列 made the swords by the traditional Way?

 

Cheers

 

Joe

[cabowen]

I wouldn't say only those smiths made traditional blades but it is probably safe to say that those smiths made traditional blades.

[888jojoli]

I wouldn't say only those smiths made traditional blades but it is probably safe to say that those smiths made traditional blades.

 

 

Thanks Cabowen.

 

One more question:

 

兼光 (Kanemitsu)後藤 松蔵 from 関鍛治刀匠 and also 中作 (CHU SAKU)= 上工の列 (Joko no Retsu) = 後藤 兼光

 

Are they a same person?

 

Cheers

 

Joe

[cabowen]

most likely...

[888jojoli]

most likely...

 

 

Thanks mate

 

Joe