nagamaki - Franco Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 reinhard said: First attachement shows an example by Goto TEIJO. Sorry for the bad quality. It's the scan of an illustration from a catalogue.. Reinhard, are what appears to these eyes as menuki of chickens wearing peacock feathers, signed?, attributed?, authenticated?, as being genuine Teijo work? Just curious. Quote
Henry Wilson Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 nagamaki said: Reinhard, are what appears to these eyes as menuki of chickens wearing peacock feathers, signed?, attributed?, authenticated?, as being genuine Teijo work? Just curious. Bet you a they are Let's not get ugly considering what has just happened in Japan. I can still feel the after shocks... Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Quote Bet you a they are Let's not get ugly considering what has just happened in Japan. I can still feel the after shocks... yes, there are many more important things in life, no harm or misdirected criticism intended. A beer bet, sure ... Quote
kokyo jin Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Just some additional menuki images... related to previous posts... Skull: I think this one qualifies as a snake.. Yet, another snake... An elephant.... Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Not to hijack this very interested thread but I'm puzzled by the meaning of putting together 3 zodiac signs as appears to be the snake horse and hare (is it an hare/rabbit ?). Thanks in advance to anybody can tell me what this is referring to. Quote
reinhard Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 nagamaki said: Reinhard, are what appears to these eyes as menuki of chickens wearing peacock feathers, signed?, attributed?, authenticated?, as being genuine Teijo work? Just curious. These menuki were shown during a special exhibition in Atsuta Jingu in 1994 together with some of the finest examples of Tosogu. Like I said: The pics in the catalogue are not very good and cropping didn't do them a favour. Pic is just to illustrate there are peacock menuki. It was a common design especially in the Ishiguro school. Here's the original comment: reinhard Quote
kokyo jin Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini said: (is it an hare/rabbit ?). It looks like a dog or monkey to me. Quote
Toryu2020 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 Well I can see the way to go here is to say something is rare and then watch as all the photos come out! I confess I am not much of a kodogu guy but in all the years I have been looking at this stuff I do not recall seeing any peacocks. Ho-o birds yes but no peacocks, now I have seen a lifetimes worth. I wonder Hilik or anyone else if there are photos of "Kakeya Rangaku" out there besides the set I posted earlier or that which may be found in the Futokoromono book? -t Toryu said: Labelled as Kakeya Rangaku - Which I would translate as "wood-mallet rangaku" or wood-mallet and fence or a fence of wooden mallets? Not sure exactly but I like the idea of a pile of stakes and mallets as a barricade. A Rangaku btw is a type of castle defense, a barricade made by driving stakes into the bottom of a shallow moat and then tying a stout rope to them in a random pattern. Meant to trip up men and horses as they assault the castle walls. While I appreciate Goto artistry, I have never much cared for their works mostly because of their subject choices. However when I saw this set I fell in love with it because of the unusual subject and the deep black of the shakudo. (sorry the photos do not do them justice) I was only able to find one other depiction of this subject and it too was early Goto work. Hows this for rare? Quote
bmlusk1911 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 It may be because I'm prejudiced towards the Shiba Inu, but I'm surprised the dogs I've seen represented in Menuki and Tsubas don't have the characteristic pointed ears and curled tails of the Shiba or Akita Inus... Quote
chuck Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Turtle in a Gift Box? http://cgi.ebay.com/3653-Edo-Samurai-sw ... 4aa92ce544 Weird. Can anyone explain why "Turtle in a Gift Box" is a menuki motif? I'm really kinda curious about this one. pax. Quote
Lorenzo Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 It may refer to Urashima Tarō http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urashima_Tar%C5%8D Quote
kokyo jin Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 chuck said: I'm really kinda curious about this one. pax. It looks like Lorenzo is correct about the motif. http://img01.ti-da.net/usr/bambi/P1000052.JPG Japan issued a set of stamps on this tale: http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/timbre/cabinet/201102_007/751221.jpg?_ex=200x200&s=0&r=1 Quote
chuck Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Thanks for the info!! I had heard the story before, but I didn't make the connection to the munuki. Also of interest: A kozuka showing rats pretending to be samurai: https://www.aoi-art.com/auction/en/auct ... 1213703271 I would unquestionably buy this if I had the spare cash. Shame that I don't. damn. Quote
kokyo jin Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 What with pulling the tongue? Looks like a torture from hell... 嘘をつくと閻魔さまに舌を抜かれる Quote
kokyo jin Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Toryu said: I wonder Hilik or anyone else if there are photos of "Kakeya Rangaku" out there besides the set I posted earlier or that which may be found in the Futokoromono book? -t Is this is what you are looking for...?! or is it a water wheel? Quote
John A Stuart Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 That is one of the tortures that can be found in the 18 levels of hell, tongue ripping, from Chinese 地狱 Diyu (Can.) Japanese 地獄 Jigoku. One of the not so bad tortures. John Quote
kokyo jin Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama_%28Buddhism_and_Chinese_mythology%29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu Thanks Quote
chuck Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 I know it's a tsuba and not munuki, but could someone perhaps explain the "Mentally Unstable Man Taunting a Frog with a Gourd" motif? http://www.japanesesword.de/?site=fitti ... b25s6pmg85 I'm just not comprehending it. Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 Greetings, 1) came across this image of a turtle menuki while sorting through some old files. Quote
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