Maurice_lmb Posted July 25, 2010 Report Posted July 25, 2010 Helle gentlemen Let me have the pleasure to show you a mumei tanto. I have been told by several friends that it seems to be UDA KUNIMITSU. I know it is hard without having it in hands, but what do you think of it. Maurice Quote
Tokaido Posted July 25, 2010 Report Posted July 25, 2010 Hello Maurice, nice tanto Please add some measurements to your pics. These are essential. A picture showing the mune of the blade in full length would be nice, too. The pic *mune kissaki* shows only a part off the blade. Looks like continuing tapering from habaki to the tip?=> Muromachi Uda Kunimtsu = founder of the Uda school? Greetings Andreas Quote
Jacques Posted July 25, 2010 Report Posted July 25, 2010 Hi, If i see well, yasurime are sujikai with kesho. in this case this tanto is shinto or shinshinto. Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted July 25, 2010 Report Posted July 25, 2010 I have been told by several friends that it seems to be UDA KUNIMITSU. Would lean toward a good later (edit: meaning Shinshinto) copy based upon these images. Quote
Ted Tenold Posted July 25, 2010 Report Posted July 25, 2010 I have to agree that this looks like a Shinshinto piece to me, and not Uda school. Uda nakago are very conspicuous with broad width, little or no sori, and nearly parallel mune and ha edges. This one has more taper through it's length than I'd expect for Uda. My internet is crawling today for some reason, so I didn't look through all the images for a better look. Maybe later I'll have a look at the other pictures. Quote
reinhard Posted July 26, 2010 Report Posted July 26, 2010 I have been told by several friends that it seems to be UDA KUNIMITSU. What makes them think so? Ko-Nyudo KUNIMITSU's work is very difficult to track for he left hardly any signed works. Actually Uda KUNIMITSU is close to a mere myth. Even the experts of N.B.T.H.K. prefer to speak of Ko-Uda instead of Uda KUNIMITSU. Your friends must have good reasons to be so precise in their statements. Let us hear. reinhard Quote
Eric H Posted July 26, 2010 Report Posted July 26, 2010 For comparison a Tanto by Uda Kunimune, 21.6 cm The Uda school's Tanto and Wakizashi boshi are midarekomi, tsukiage, and the tip is sharp and there is a long return, (or the midarekomi tip has a sharp peak). This resembles the Samonji school, and this is one of their characteristic styles. Their Tanto and Wakizashi nakago are broad wide tips with kurijiri, the nakago-mune is round, many of yasurime are katte-sagari, and the signatures are usually on the omote side, under the mekugi-ana, along the center. (Shijo Kantei No 634) Eric Quote
Jacques Posted July 26, 2010 Report Posted July 26, 2010 Hi, The Uda school's Tanto and Wakizashi boshi are midarekomi, tsukiage, and the tip is sharp and there is a long return, (or the midarekomi tip has a sharp peak). Boshi of the Uda school are often sharp in their extremity but not always, the kaeri can also be not very long. Focusing on some characteristics is the best way to be wrong in kantei. Quote
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