Bruce Pennington Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Stegel said: That anchor is for the Kure Naval Arsenal What da heck!? So, I wonder if they were making Army fittings or maybe just in-taking gunto from civil shops to process for the Army? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 @Kiipu - another double stamped Toyokawa, both large and small. Seems to be showing up on the souvenir blades, so maybe these are war surplus, originally with one stamp, and the second one added in the souvenir assembly process? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 I think both wartime and postwar blades were used. Another possibility is that wartime swords were scrapped and the blades reused? One thing I have noticed is the cutoff tangs on these. Is this a sign of a postwar made blade? Do any wartime blades have this feature? With all that said, I have not really looked at these swords from a manufacturing point of view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajo Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 Thats a nice sword Bruce. I belive its a real wartime sword, maybe produced but not out given to a officer. The nakago looks like cut of to mark it as a none wartime sword. Very interesting. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Kiipu said: One thing I have noticed is the cutoff tangs on these. Is this a sign of a postwar made blade? Do any wartime blades have this feature? I originally thought this might be a sign of post-war work, and it still may. It may simply be a sign of rushed work. I have a 1943 Yoshishige kai with a jiri almost as crude. So, after re-looking at it, the broken-off ends may still be a sign of post-war. We'll have to start looking for that on kai vs souvenir. My Yoshishige 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Yoshiharu with W and another stamp at bottom of tang: https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/j1016514609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Thanks John, that's a great one. Haven't seen one of these with a "TO" stamp. @Kiipu - got any W stamped blades with a "TO"? As I filed this, the 2 Yoshiharu I have are both 1943 as is the single Yoshitani. The W-stamped Mantetsu are mostly 1942 and 1943, with 2 '44s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Hello. My father gave me an NCO Shin Gunto sword from WWII. I am trying to determine its history and the meaning of the tang stamps on its handle. I have pictures but can't seem to load them here. Thanks! Ross Indianapolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 You will find all your stamps on Ohmura’s site: http://ohmura-study.net/794.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 5:37 AM, Bruce Pennington said: @Kiipu - got any W stamped blades with a "TO"? I do not recall running into a 東 & M combination on a nakago before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Came across this on a Gunboards Thread - Navy Officers Sword. It has stamped "1 66" on the nakago. The "1" is large, and the "66" is small. Can't decide if that was intentional or simply a guy grasping for number stamps and grabbed different sizes. The painted numbers are "166" so I'm leaning to the "not intentional" theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/1/2019 at 6:38 AM, Bruce Pennington said: A new one! And while this one is actually engraved, like mei, it says "Inspected." The WAF is off-limits to nonmembers. So, this leads to the following questions. What type of sword is this, army, navy, civilian? Do you have pictures of both sides of the tang? Are there any other inspection type marks on the tang? The kanji character that is depicted is 撿 which can mean several things. https://nihongomaster.com/Japanese/dictionary/kanji/7953/撿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted November 13, 2021 Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Kiipu said: Do you have pictures Here's all the pics provided by the owner. No pics of the other side. It's the only example of the "stamp" observed so far. It's an Amahide blade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Here's a puzzler found by @Stephen. Enough similarities to the Yamamoto Gunto Shop, but enough differences too. I'm leaning to the side of it being a different (and unidentified) shop logo. Any ideas, anyone? Yamamoto Mystery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANGBANGSAN Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Saw this unusual type 30 bayonet, it has both Mukden and Tayogawa arsenal marks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 This was posted way back on page 1, but I didn't see (or missed) discussion on it. Can someone shed light? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 Half struck showa stamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 Right. some of the most challenging stamps are the ones that are partially struck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 thank you @Bruce Pennington and @Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Well, speak of the devil. @Bruce Pennington and @Stephen you may be interested in this. Showa stamp on a very nice looking blade with beautiful fittings. @Ray Singer can you shed light on the mei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bugyotsuji Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Seki Ju Kaneshige *(No, see below) 関住兼重 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Or is that Kanenao? http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/oshigata/kanenao3.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 @Bugyotsuji thank you. Forgive the question: the kanji in your post, are they meant to match the mei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just checking on the PC screen, and Stephen has what I am now seeing, Kanenao 兼直 (Scrub my post above!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 I'd go with Kanenao: http://japaneseswordindex.com/oshigata/kanenao3.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 And that's one heck'ov a hamon for a showato! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Can anyone elucidate on the blue painted kanji. Doesn't seem to be the normal numbering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bugyotsuji said: Just checking on the PC screen, and Stephen has what I am now seeing, Kanenao 兼直 (Scrub my post above!) Let the record show I am ALWAYS grateful for your insights @Bugyotsuji and everyone here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said: Can anyone elucidate on the blue painted kanji. Looks like it says 白 無号 (White. No number) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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