Arsenal Stamps.

[Bruce Pennington]

Good example of both the 4mm and 6mm on this thread: 

 

 

 

[Corry]

On 4/7/2018 at 2:36 PM, lonely panet said:

I had a Kyu gunto with a double stamping, only just noticed a second example

Any idea what the kanji marks on the seppa are?

 

Rgds,

Corry

[BANGBANGSAN]

4 hours ago, Corry said:

Any idea what the kanji marks on the seppa are?

 

Rgds,

Corry

水谷

 

[BANGBANGSAN]

Just now, BANGBANGSAN said:

水谷 Mizutani

 

 

[Kiipu]

A rather nice example of the 社 inspection mark that makes an appearance on a Type 95 scabbard.

Sword Picture Thread, Post #3

[Bruce Pennington]

That’s a beauty, Thomas,! Better than the one I have in the stamps document. But not for long!

[Kiipu]

On 9/20/2021 at 5:34 PM, Bruce Pennington said:

I don't see an anchor on your 6mm link.

 

Fixed. Arsenal Stamps., Page 15

 

I was right clicking on the three dots in the upper right corner of the post to create a link.  However, this would merely take one to the top of the page.  Apparently with the recent update in the forum software, one needs to right click on the posted date to create a direct link to the post.  The date is located directly to the right of the poster's name.

[Bruce Pennington]

[Brian]

1 hour ago, Kiipu said:

I was right clicking on the three dots in the upper right corner of the post to create a link.  However, this would merely take one to the top of the page.  Apparently with the recent update in the forum software, one needs to right click on the posted date to create a direct link to the post.  The date is located directly to the right of the poster's name.

Nope. Assuming pc, just click the 3 dots and choose "share"
There's your link.

[Bruce Pennington]

Got a collection going, now, of unknown stamps at the end of nakago.  No idea of their meaning, or why they are there - forge/shop logo? smith kao? polisher logo? etc.  Thought I would post the ones I have with the smith, when known.  If you see one you own, or know where to find it, I'm trying to get the smith name of the blade they were found on.  With that, I can do a search for each smith's blades to see if the mark recurs, or if they are one-off oddities.  Thanks to anyone who can help ID these:

on Kuniyasu

 

 

on Masahiro

 

Unknown smith

 

Unknown smith

 

unknown smith

 

unknown smith

 

unknown smith

 

on Yoshinao blade

 

on 1943 Yoshichika blade

[Corry]

Here is mine from Showato smith Yoshichika Type 98 :

 

Rgds,

Corry

[Kiipu]

1 hour ago, Corry said:

Here is mine from Showato smith Yoshichika Type 98.

 

Most likely the number 六三.  Check the fittings to see if they have a subassembly number that matches.

六三 = 63.

[Corry]

Here is one off of a Type 3 two hole nakago:

 

 

[Stephen]

Corry 

Is that on the Kanekaga? 

Bit close would you pull back and show location on nakago please.

 

 

[Bruce Pennington]

3 hours ago, Corry said:

one off of a Type 3

Durrell, that's a Gifu stamp.  Found your photos of the mei and date (Kanekage, 1944).  Thanks!

[Corry]

15 hours ago, Stephen said:

Corry 

Is that on the Kanekaga? 

 

Stephen, Yes, Kanekage. The mark is upper left to the top Nakago hole. You can see it on the second pic down on the left on this link:  

 

 

 

[Corry]

On 9/24/2021 at 8:00 AM, Kiipu said:

Check the fittings to see if they have a subassembly number that matches.

 

Kiipu,

 

Just checked the type 3 and there are no marks except on the Nakago. Nothing on the Seppas, hangar or other fittings.

 

Best Regards,

Corry

[Stegel]

Here's a different encircled anchor which i don't think is here. It is found on training bayonets.

I don't think the other anchor is the Toyokawa stamp

[Bruce Pennington]

7 hours ago, Corry said:

no marks

Thanks Durrell.  Not surprising.  Seems to be the case on most RS gunto.  It was worth a try, though.

[Bruce Pennington]

5 hours ago, Stegel said:

encircled anchor

Fuller has a few naval stamps, but none of those are listed.  Neither are they listed in that chart you sent me.  I know I've seen that anchor with sakura somewhere, but I don't recall where that was.

[Butch]

Naval Parade Sabre 

Marks ?

[Bruce Pennington]

Gareth,

The one on "top" is the Suya Shoten Company.  Great write-up on them by Nick Komiay - The Untold Story of Suya Shoten.

The bottom stamp - we used to say it was of the Toyokawa Navy Arsenal.  Recent work by @Kiipu may be pointing toward a Naval Acceptance Stamp, similar to the Showa stamp for the Army.  Your photo clearly eliminates any doubt as to it being a shop logo, as I have another guard with this anchor in sakura with another shop stamp.

And on a seppa

[BANGBANGSAN]

5 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

Gareth,

The one on "top" is the Suya Shoten Company.  Great write-up on them by Nick Komiay - The Untold Story of Suya Shoten.

The bottom stamp - we used to say it was of the Toyokawa Navy Arsenal.  Recent work by @Kiipu may be pointing toward a Naval Acceptance Stamp, similar to the Showa stamp for the Army.  Your photo clearly eliminates any doubt as to it being a shop logo, as I have another guard with this anchor in sakura with another shop stamp.

And on a seppa

The mark besides Naval Acceptance Stamp, One is from 中野商店，one is 松山由造‘s .

 

[Kiipu]

It is not unusual to see two logos on naval swords regardless of age.  What is unusual is that one of the logos is a constant, the cherry blossom with anchor inside.  I have kicked around the idea that it could be the mark of a reseller and not that of a manufacturer.  The reason for this is that the older army swords are marked just as often as the naval swords yet have only one logo or sometimes the same logo repeated twice, side by side.

 

I have also seen the same company logos appear on both army and naval swords.  Yet the naval swords have the additional cherry blossom & anchor logo.  It really is a bit of a mystery.

[Kiipu]

On 7/24/2010 at 11:27 AM, Ted Tenold said:

These red kanji stamped on the fuchidai of the tsuka are important because it notes the work of a great tsukamakishi named Shukichi Yamaguchi, aka "Tsukahei".

 

I have identified the following kanji characters in red ink 陸軍X and in black ink 七四二 so far.  @BANGBANGSAN can you pitch in and help with the third kanji character in red?

陸軍? = army ?.

七四二 = 742.

Edited October 14, 2021 by Kiipu

[BANGBANGSAN]

15 hours ago, Kiipu said:

 

I have identified the following kanji characters in red ink 陸軍X and in black ink 七四二 so far.  @BANGBANGSAN can you pitch in and help with the third kanji character in red?

陸軍? = army ?.

七四二 = 742.

The photo is too small,I can only make a guess-陸軍造？

[Kiipu]

Now I am second guessing the first kanji!  So I think you are correct, it is just too blurred to really know.  As always, thanks for all your assistance.

[Bruce Pennington]

Think this is the same anchor as on this reg page?  If so, what does the reg say about this anchor?

ht

Found by @Kiipu on this SFI thread.

[Stegel]

That anchor is for the Kure Naval Arsenal

[PNSSHOGUN]

The mountings are Type 94 IMO, may help with date ranges.