Bruce Pennington Posted January 23, 2017 Report Posted January 23, 2017 I don't recall seeing these stamps on this thread yet (if it is, please let me know and I'll delete this!) From Alex, as seen for sale via the web, a contractor and inspector stamp on a Kokura Arsenal Type 95 gunto. As far as I can find, the contractor stamp is legit, but classed "Unknown". Any ideas on the inspector stamp? My guess is the "Ho" of Kokura 1st. Quote
IJASWORDS Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 Don't know if this qualifies, but there are definite stamps on both sides of the drag on a KAI GUNTO from my collection. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 Neil, I believe I have read that this was a patent number. It is described on Ohmura's site, but it's in Japanese: 右より 實用新案特許 若瀬軍刀製作所(東 京市芝區)の商標 裏: 第213917號 I think that's the same number as yours, so it most likely is a patent number and not a serial number. As always, leave it to you to have a very beautiful example of every variation of the gunto!!! I love it! Quote
lucidorise Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 My shin gunto chape has the same patent number. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 On 1/23/2017 at 5:18 PM, Bruce Pennington said: I don't recall seeing these stamps on this thread yet (if it is, please let me know and I'll delete this!) From Alex, as seen for sale via the web, a contractor and inspector stamp on a Kokura Arsenal Type 95 gunto. As far as I can find, the contractor stamp is legit, but classed "Unknown". Any ideas on the inspector stamp? My guess is the "Ho" of Kokura 1st. Here is both the Kokura "Ho" and Kokura First Arsenal "Ko." on a nakago mune. 小 Army Arsenal Kokura Factory - Kokura Army Arsenal inspection mark: "Ko". "Ko" stamp is not discovered except for the following example. It seems that the inspection mark used the "To" commonly since most Tokyo Factories relocated to Kokura Factory. ホ Army Arsenal Kokura First Factory inspection mark: "Ho" The Ko is above the Ho, and fainter. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 OK, this might qualify for its own thread, the moderators might want to spin it off. If so, would you pin it so we can add to it as time goes by? I've been seeing several sepia and tsuba with undecipherable Kanji. My theory is that they are a Logo of the craftsman or the company making the fittings, sort of like the curvy checkmark of Nike shoes. I've tried the "Translations" forum and haven't had any takers on translation. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 On 4/21/2017 at 6:01 PM, Stephen said: read better blade edge up Thanks Stephen! After all this time, it never occurred to me that about the orientation of seppa and tsuba kanji!!! For the life of me, though, that tsuba pic, no matter what I do to it, the photo upload software is posting blade-down!!!! Quote
Stephen Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 ive not seen this before, how about you? on a seki stamp Kanetaka one of the RIA swords 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 No. I even did a short search on other Kanetaka blades, and don't see it on the few I could find pictures of. It is so well imprinted, it almost locks fake, though I not saying that it is! There is a word for these personalized smith stamps. Looks like he came up with one at some time in his career. Very interesting one! Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 I think the word you're looking for is Kokuin. This is interesting since most (all that I've seen) are a representation - sometimes highly stylized - of their name. I don't see Kanetaka in this stamp (but I have been known to be quite dense). Edit - Yup. Dense. Kanetaka is there... 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 Like me - slow but trainable! 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 18, 2017 Report Posted September 18, 2017 Completely new to me, a contractor stamp on a Toyokawa navy arsenal kaigunto seppa. Thomas Appel Nillson proved the pic at the Military Swords of Imperial Japan (Shin Gunto) facebook page. He identified it as from the Gunto Sei Saku Jo company. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 Something new coming to us from Neil (IJASWORDS): 3 stamps on the nakago mune of a Star-stamped Kanetoshi. The top, circled one is "Seki", but I can't find the other 2 anywhere. Quote
Hastur Posted January 27, 2018 Report Posted January 27, 2018 Found this odd diamond stamp at the end of my Kuniyasu's nakago. Anybody know what it might mean? Quote
Rich S Posted January 27, 2018 Report Posted January 27, 2018 You all might want to check my company logo page: http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/logo/logo.htm Rich Quote
lonely panet Posted April 7, 2018 Report Posted April 7, 2018 I had a Kyu gunto with a double stamping, only just noticed a second example 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted April 7, 2018 Report Posted April 7, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 9:36 PM, Hamfish said: I had a Kyu gunto with a double stamping, only just noticed a second example Dang, Hamfish! That's the first actual example of the Yamamoto Stamp I've ever seen! Any idea of the meaning of the "Mizutani"? 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted May 29, 2018 Report Posted May 29, 2018 On 4/22/2017 at 12:55 AM, Stephen said: ive not seen this before, how about you? kanetakakokuni.jpg on a seki stamp Kanetaka one of the RIA swords Stephen, don't know how I missed it, but this hot stamp is actaully listed in Fuller & Gregory's kokuin chart - as a Matsuda Kanetaka stamp! (item iv) 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted May 29, 2018 Report Posted May 29, 2018 On 10/10/2015 at 1:47 PM, hxv said: More nakago mune stamps. IMG_7771.JPG on my Muto Hidehiro. IMG_7782.JPG on my Yoshu Hiromasa. Regards, Hoanh Hoanh, It only took me 2 years to get to you on this! But both are arsenal inspector marks. Top on is "Na" of Nagoya arsenal, and "Ho" of Kokura 1st Arsenal Bottom is "Ko" of Kokura, and "Ho" of Kokura 1st Arsenal Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted June 11, 2018 Report Posted June 11, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 9:36 PM, Hamfish said: I had a Kyu gunto with a double stamping, only just noticed a second exampleI have never seen a kyugunto with a tsuba Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted June 11, 2018 Report Posted June 11, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 10:21 AM, Kai-Gunto said: I have never seen a kyugunto with a tsuba That’s actually the face of the hand guard with the blade and seppa remover! 1 Quote
takakage Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 On 4/22/2017 at 12:55 AM, Stephen said: ive not seen this before, how about you? kanetakakokuni.jpg on a seki stamp Kanetaka one of the RIA swords http://www.nipponto.co.jp/swords4/KY329570.htm 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 2:54 PM, takakage said: http://www.nipponto.co.jp/swords4/KY329570.htm Thanks Patrick! That's the kokuin for Kanetaka. It can be found in Fuller & Gregory, in a drawing form. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 Eric, that's a new one on me, and I don't see it in any of my reference material. Is it on the nakago mune (back edge)? 1 Quote
george trotter Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 Guys, looks like the kanji for SAKA (Osaka) on the mune (struck sideways). This appears in tiny form on some gendaito the same as tiny seki and na stamps appear on RJT swords (both on the nakago shinogi-ji and nakago mune). Can't remember exactly, but might be seen on Nagamitsu and some others. I'm sure it has been mentioned in the longer posts on stamps. Regards, 1 Quote
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