Majorkonig49 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Hi!! I have a vet bring back sword given to me by grandmother(grandfather died in the 60's) so he was not around to tell me about it. Through my research i have found that it is a Japanese Kaigunto or atleast has Kaigunto furnature, Others on a different militaria site say the blade itslefe may be quite older than its WWII fitings. The only problem is that i dont read Japanese. I would greatly apreciate if someone would tranlate the signature. I also included a pic of the tip of the sword that shows the Hamon as it is a beutiful part of the sword. Unfortunatly there is a knick on the tip but the one you see is the only flaw. If you would like, i can also upload pics of the furnature. Thanks again Majorkonig Quote
David McDonald Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Dear Majorkonig49 Looks like No濃 shu州 Seki関 ju住 Hattori服部 Masa正 hiro広 saku作 A WWII smith later david mcdonald Quote
cabowen Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 (Seki stamp) Noshu Seki ju Hattori Masahiro saku Made by Hattori Masahiro of Seki, (in Noshu) As David wrote while I was typing this... Seki stamp indicates a non-traditionally made blade. This is a WWII era blade. Quote
Majorkonig49 Posted July 13, 2010 Author Report Posted July 13, 2010 Thanks alot for the translation, i was wondering why a traditionaly made blade would carry an arsanal stamp on ita nd now i know lol. Realy apreciate it!!! Quote
Majorkonig49 Posted July 13, 2010 Author Report Posted July 13, 2010 Just one question aboit it being a "non-traditionally made blade", does that mean this was maching made or was it hand forged but forged from a diferent grade steel or forged using a different method? Quote
Kevin Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 does that mean this was maching made or was it hand forged but forged from a diferent grade steel or forged using a different method? A traditionally made blade is made 1) using tamahagane 2) forged in the traditional manner, including folding the steel to even out the carbon content of the steel so that it is homogeneous 3) hardened using yakire with water as a quenching medium. Now if it is lacking in one of those requirements, it is non-traditional. Mill steel, for example, doesn't need the traditional folding because the carbon content is already homogeneous. OTOH mill steel might be folded 2-3 times because that increases the toughness of a blade, as indicated by a Charpy test. A non-traditional blade might also be quenched in oil; some steels (e.g. tool steels) are designed to be quenched in oil. Oil quenched steels have low distortion, which makes them ideal for tool making. Quench such a steel in water and it may break or crack. Kevin Quote
Russell P Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 Was there more than 1 Hattori Masahiro? The signature on mine does not match and it has no Seki stamp. Mine is a takayama sword Translates as Top Left Right Respectfully Made Takayama Sword Polisher hommura Kosaemon Sword smith Hattori masahiro Russell Quote
David McDonald Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 Dear All Fuller has a note of a Hatrtori Masahiro with thickened blade tip Takayama (prison forge) Masahiro --- Hattori Masahiro Hattori Masahiro -- not know if this is the same as the other two. So MY guess is there is one Masahiro that had more than one person do the signing???? Just a thought david mcdonald Quote
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