Sporkkaji Posted July 5, 2010 Report Posted July 5, 2010 Hello, some time ago I purchased a naval sword and the seller translated the signature as Ban-Shu-Hime-Ji-Ju-Mori-Taka-Kio-Naga-Saku. It's my understanding that Moritaka would be his family name and Kionaga his given name? Later, a different translator told me it was Mori-Da-Kio-Kage, so I don't know which one is correct, or if it might be some combination of the two. Any help clearing this up would be greatly appreciated, as well as any possible information on this particular smith if it exists. Thanks! Quote
cabowen Posted July 5, 2010 Report Posted July 5, 2010 Banshu Himeji ju Morita Kiyo ? Can't see the last kanji well enough.... Morita is the family name. Kiyo ? the smith's working name.... Quote
Nobody Posted July 5, 2010 Report Posted July 5, 2010 The smith’s name may be Kiyokage (清影). BTW, the following Morita might be the same Morita of the mei of your sword, though I am not so sure. Morita Golf is the first golf club manufacture in Japan. It was founded in 1928 by Mr. Morita Seitaro (森田清太郎), who was also a sword smith in Himeji. Ref. http://www.moritagolf.co.jp/ Quote
Sporkkaji Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Posted July 5, 2010 Wow, thanks for the lead on Morita golf. I dug a little deeper in their website and came up with this page http://www.moritagolf.co.jp/choice0211.html And a rough Google translation revealed this.... "The club began production in Himeji, Hyogo Prefecture domestic founder Morita, Morita Kiyotarou is that of 1928. The third-generation president, says Taro Kiyoshi Morita Yasushi's grandsons. Before production of the club, but I was not sure what, during the war, so it was making a sword, I think you think was the Blacksmith." Can the name on the sword possibly be Morita Kiyotarou?? If not, it's a heck of a coincidence. Quote
Nobody Posted July 5, 2010 Report Posted July 5, 2010 Sporkkaji said: ............... Can the name on the sword possibly be Morita Kiyotarou?? If not, it's a heck of a coincidence. Morita Seitaro (I believe that “Seitaro” is the correct reading in this case. Ref. http://www.kobe-np.co.jp/info/hyogo_jin/67.shtml ) is his real name. On the nakago of his swords, a smith usually does not chisel his real name but his smith’s name. Quote
Guest hartford10 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Yes I think that second one is the perfect translation of that. It seems to be completely relavant. I had confirmed that. Quote
Jean Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Hartford1O, Please sign by your name as per NMB rules Quote
Brian Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Running a forum for so long, you get a 6th sense about these. Judging by our friend Hartford's 3 replies that mean basically nothing..I am guessing he is either a bot or a human here to spam or collect emails. Lots of collectors in India then? Confirmed via global spam list and IP trace. Banned. Brian Quote
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