Give me your opinions on dates, and schools on this new tsub

[jason_mazzy]

I bought this a few weeks ago, and it recently arrived. What are your thoughts?

 

[raaay]

Jason

 

IMHO so badly rusted i would have passed on this one.

 

sorry

ray

[Martin]

Hi Jason,

 

I can only second Ray´s thoughts.

As a beginning collector (I think you once mentioned you are one) one has to be patient and strong to withstand the "urge" of buying something. At least this is my experience.

 

If you aim to build up a collection it is better to buy one good Tsuba instead of 3 or 5 "low quality" pieces. I can also recommend not to forget to invest in books (http://home.earthlink.net/~jggilbert/reading.htm).

 

Best,

Martin

[Martin]

Hi Jason,

 

I hope I did not sound too harsh or disrespectful in my previous post....

It wasn´t meant to disparage your taste or something - it´s just that I and I guess many others have experienced the urge to buy something without thinking too much about it´s place in a collection.

Try to look for quality and go and study as much good Tsuba in hand as possible.

I guess the sword shows in the U.S. are a great place to do so.

 

Best,

[Mark Green]

Hi Jay,

 

Like the guys have said.

Great scans! not hard to see the damage of age, and sitting in the shed?

 

I do like the tsuba though. At one time, it must have been very nice. Seems like a good job was done on that inlay, to survive all these years of rust.

I think Jason is getting a clue about slowing down a bit.

We can all remember that passion!

Hope to see you soon, for some study bro.

Mark G

[Henry Wilson]

Jason

 

You might like this. Especially when it is still on the Golden Week sale

 

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[jason_mazzy]

I am actually quite fond of this one. It may have some wear but the patina is thick, and no red rust. That inlay is great and it seems to have had a lot of iron work done to it. I am still curious about what school or periods would have made a tsuba like this?

[Lee Bray]

Hi Jason.

 

This sukashi piece, https://www.aoi-art.com/fittings/tsuba/F10133.html, makes for a good comparison between thick rust and thick patina.

 

Sorry I can't help with school.

[Toryu2020]

Might have been better looking without the inlay,

FWIW I would look at later schools from Tosa...

-t

[sanjuro]

Jason.

 

Everybody is tippy toeing around this, so I'll simply make the statement.

 

If you are fond of this tsuba, thats fine. However, there is a difference between patina and rust. What you have on this guard is rust. There is no 'patina' as such that looks like rust. There is a patina that comes from very old oxidisation but it doesnt look like this.

[Mark Green]

On a close look, you can see where one of the flower petals inlay has fallen out. Unless my eyes are playing tricks, you can still see the outline of the petal in the iron.

 

I would think that it is likely a mid Edo, or later period tsuba. There were dozens of schools that worked in Sukashi. Less that added inlay. It is a very common theme. I look forward to seeing it in person Jason.

Mark G