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Restoration, can it be done?

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SwordGuyJoe Grand Master

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With a blade in this condition, it may be restored. What you would need to be prepared for is that when the polisher begins their work that they find a fatal flaw below the rust. The rust can make it impossible to see flaws before the polish work starts. Once it starts, if flaws are found, you may be left holding the bag on your investment. :bang:

moss Community Regular

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Rich,

Thats awful!

The question that springs to mind ,is how much material will have to be removed?

The kissaki area looks bad.

Do you think there is anough material to work with or will the old man just really be bones.

 

Moss

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I don't know how much material is left, the seller dosen't know much about swords and it is far away so I can't see it in person, its not a lot of money, below $100. I think ill wait a few more days for more opinions before I buy it.

 

Rich r.

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Rich,

Get some measurements to post.

That way you will get a much better idea if it is viable.

How has it been stored to get so much rust?

It is a shame to see such neglect ,but I guess it there would be thousands of blades around in similar condition.

 

Cheers Moss

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Rich

 

Sorry to say this, but IMHO this blade is dead. I suspect it had seen general use as a gardening tool to get this badly rusted. The rust particularly in the kissaki area is too deeply rooted even for a sword with plenty of meat left on it, to survive a polishing without the core steel coming through. I suspect that a polisher would also tell you the same sort of thing. Remember, a polish will cost you $80+ an inch on each side.

 

Sorry... I hate to see blades neglected and abused like this.

blades87 Enthusiast

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One issue you face with a nagasa with a groove in it is that the blade will be difficult to straighten if it is bent. Also, looking at the level of pitting on the blade, you will have a lot of material to remove in order to restore this blade will probably result in a lot of core steel being exposed.

watsonmil Mentor

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Dear Rich,

Any history that might have been there is gone. Save your $ 100.00 and wait until you have added to that several hundred more. Patience is a virtue ............ especially in the field of Nihonto. A $ 100.00 investment in books if you want, .... but not $ 100.00 in rust.

Kind regards, .... Ron Watson

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I believe that blade is on ebay, and that from what i last seen it jumped far to high to be worth it. I was thinking theres a good chance it was machine made also, if it is the same one I saw.

Ted Tenold Mentor

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One issue you face with a nagasa with a groove in it is that the blade will be difficult to straighten if it is bent

 

They're all equally difficult if you don't know what you're doing. Bohi make no difference.

 

Sorry guys, but no amount of measurements or information from a seller will confirm or deny it's restorability. A polisher won't even be able to say with certainty that it is restorable. I can think of a whole bunch of reasons other than depletion of skin steel that would relegate it to the garden as a tomato stake.

 

Hagiri under all that corrosion

Nioigiri

Hajimi (sleepy or muddy) yakiba

Yakemi (fire damaged) Anyone care for another burnt marshmallow?

Saiba (retempered)

 

Lots of possibilities for disappointment, *after* more money is thrown at it. Polishing a window in it also does not ensure it's restorability. Issues like some of the above may lie in an area not opened, just waiting for discovery later during the whole polishing.

 

These aren't just considerations for this sword though I agree it's pretty bad from the images. These issues are possible in swords that have no rust, some polish, or even appear to be in good polish from the images. If you don't have it in hand, you simply can't tell, and if you don't know what you're looking for, then you may not recognize it.

 

I see so many folks willing to gamble on long shots. A hundred bucks doesn't sound like much, until you don't have it in your pocket anymore.

Jean

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Hagiri under all that corrosion

Nioigiri

Hajimi (sleepy or muddy) yakiba

Yakemi (fire damaged) Anyone care for another burnt marshmallow?

Saiba (retempered)

 

Are you sure to be exhaustive, Ted? :laughabove: :rotfl:

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