can someone help me please!!!

[Guest MALOGATO]

I was told it could be a bishu osafune sukesada~ or a muromachi piece

I took the sword to a knife sharpener and he had a gleeful smile holding the sword

the bishu osafune sukesada signature on the sword is the same on some of the other sites please let me know if this belongs in a museum thanks

 

http://s855.photobucket.com/albums/ab11 ... 0sukesada/

 

Raul Garcia

[Bugyotsuji]

The shadow falls across the most important bit, but my instincts are telling me that it does not belong in a museum. It belongs in the hands of someone who will look after it.

[outlier48]

I understand why you would ask the question. I had the same thoughts when I inherited a wakizashi - give it to someone who will display it and maintain it. However, i believe Piers is correct. This sword will (probably) be better maintained by an individual who will have "true pride of ownership" - you? - as opposed to an institution. One need look no further than the conditions of the tombs of Marx (private cemetery) and Smith (public cemetery) to see this "in action". I hope you will take the opportunity to purchase some books and attend shows to enhance your knowledge of nihonto.

 

Please do post more pictures of the nakago as well as the rest of the blade for all here to see. (What you posted is intriguing). We'll enjoy them and you should get some excellent input for the knowledgeable folks on this board.

 

Also, be sure to sign your posts (per board rules).

 

Charlie Brashear

[sanjuro]

Museum..... No. Museums do not preserve such things. At best they allow them to deteriorate with distinction. Do not look to museums to preserve Japanese swords. In my experience they do less than a collector and more as desecrators by neglect of Japanese blades. Generally speaking, it bears witness to the ignorance of so called historians sponsored and funded by the public service.

[Brian]

Mentioning knife sharpeners and Nihonto in the same thread will likely get you lynched here. You need to read through some of the above info links asap.

No Japanese sword should go near any form of sharpening besides professional polishing.

 

Brian

[Guest MALOGATO]

  Brian said:

Mentioning knife sharpeners and Nihonto in the same thread will likely get you lynched here. You need to read through some of the above info links asap.

No Japanese sword should go near any form of sharpening besides professional polishing.

 

Brian

Ouch!!

[outlier48]

Hi Raul - thanks for posting the photos. Maybe it's just my eyes but most did seem a bit out of focus. :? Also, any chance of photos without the shadow lines? Again, maybe just me, but I think it would really help to show the blade in a way that we can fully appreciate it.

 

BTW, did you receive the sword taken apart as you have shown in the photos? I am particularly curious as to why the tsuka-ito, F&K and menuki were removed from the tsuka.

 

It may seem right now like the advice and comments are a bit harsh. However, as you spend time learning about nihonto you will understand that they are only meant to help you along in the process (and possibly to protect and preserve a valuable work of art).

 

Regards,

 

Charlie Brashear

[Guest MALOGATO]

thanks for the kind words sir.

but I took the sword apart, it was handled by some folks that could not see that the sword was more then just sharp, when I seen the sword I told my friend that it was a real deal samurai sword , he needed cash and sold it for $60 bones ( USA $ ) ,

 

the tsuka-ito, F&K and menuki were removed from the tsuka by time and young men that did not know the history of the sword I seen how to dis mantle the sword in a movie and chose to keep the items separate for safe keeping

 

And yes I under stand that there would be some folks that would be surprised that a country boy would come across with a piece of art and history that might look better in their display case ....my hide is just a little thicker then a snicker and being that I am a life long dreamer of owning a bonafide 600 hundred year old artifact , well is that not just a little bit of heaven on earth

thanks for being so neighborly and Nobel

Raul Garcia

[jason_mazzy]

Congratulations on your find. I truly hope your luck rubs off on all of us!

[outlier48]

Raul, any chance you might attend the sword show in the San Francisco area in August and bring your sword along to show us? Nothing like having a sword in hand and there will be lots of very knowledgeable folks there who would be very interested (and even some of us newbee's as well :lol: ).

 

Congrats on your good fortune. Now the addition will set in! Welcome to "the club".

 

Charlie Brashear

[Guest MALOGATO]

please keep me posted and I will do my best to show , if I had an actually date and time of this show I could plan my vacation around it , would you know of any one in the san jose california area that would be able to help me gussy this sword up ?

Raul Garcia

[outlier48]

Raul I think you will find this link very helpful:

 

http://www.ncjsc.org/SF_token_kai.htm

 

Through the SF Token-Kai you should be able to get the assistance you seek. Remember to take your time, be patient, and learn as much as you can (invest in books and go to shows) before taking any action to in any way "restore" the sword or its furniture. You will also find the dates of the SF show on the link.

 

Regards,

 

Charlie Brashear

[Guest MALOGATO]

Thanks buddy I plan on seeing some of youz guys there

 

Raul Garcia

[Guest MALOGATO]

here are some more photos

R. Garcia

 

http://s855.photobucket.com/albums/ab116/MALOGATO7/

[Guest MALOGATO]

I apologize I am not sure that I am doing this right but I am trying ...here is an attempt at showing some better photos of this sword thank you guys for being patient with me I am trying to place a link to photo bucket

your truly

Raul Garcia

http://s855.photobucket.com/albums/ab116/MALOGATO7/

[Guest MALOGATO]

If I wanted to sell my sword how would I go about doing it ??

Raul Garcia

[machinist]

There is a for sale section on this board and also at Sword Forum International, that would be best.

Many flattering pics helps. Some dealers in the links section have consignment sections but I think that might be a slow way to move it.

Sword show maybe or Ebay.

[bone]

I've been at this for only a couple of months. I now know enough to know that I don't know enough. (Hmmm, that made more sense in my head. Anyway...) I think it's every bit as important to be knowledgeable when you sell as when you buy. Find out everything you can before you sell. It won't cost much to wait and learn but it may cost a LOT not to.

Signature added. Steven Bone

[Guest MALOGATO]

thanks fellas :D

[drbvac]

Raul:

 

As you paid $60 I would gladly pay you 120 plus shipping

 

Seriously, you can list it here, in the for sale section, but you usuallly will have to give some indication of what you want, as well, on e-bay as other members have said, till you have an idea, and look around, search the net even on google for the name of the smith and you may find something comparable.

 

Only way you are going to get anywhere near what it could be worth.

 

As well it may very well need to be polished, ( not sharpened by anyone ) and that will add another 15-2000 to the price so keep that in mind when caculation price.

 

How come no-one ever offers these to me for 60 bucks

[Guest MALOGATO]

well Dr. Brian Barrett, you almost had a me at the offer of 120 and shipping chargers ...I like the off line offers also ...800 dollars sounded cool at first but then ,my thoughts are not of monetary...I do have bills to pay , but then so does everybody , I have always wanted to have a samurai sword , a real one ....but now that I do have one , I have come to find that it is more then just a sword ...it is a piece of history , it was most likely used on a battle field to behead an enemy, I was told it was made before Columbus set out on his journey, ...anywho it is a forum and I am just asking questions ...thanks guy's for taking it easy on me cheers

your pal

R, Garcia