Old Naginata/Nagamaki naoshi?? Opinions welcome.

[Matsunoki]

Elsewhere on the Forum is another current and interesting topic discussing boshi on Naginata  naoshi. That has prompted me to pay more attention to this blade and I would welcome all your opinions on it. For what it is worth (which isn’t much!) I think it is an early Koto naginata/nagamaki that has been reworked into this current wakizashi of 47.5cm Nagasa. The hamon and nioi guchi clearly disappear down into the nakago beyond the machi and I’m guessing o-suriage

The presence of a clear boshi with small  kaeri suggests to me that it was the style of naginata that are sometimes referred to as Nagamaki ie the longer variety with far less sori and swelling than generally associated with later Naginata. Often depicted mounted on a shorter pole.

Hada….running undulating masame (quite coarse)with areas resembling very shallow ayasugi. The hada is far more pronounced in the ji towards the ha and diminishes/weakens toward the shinogi.

There is what appears to be a very strong wide irregular utsuri over much of the ji which fades in some areas. The hada is visible through the utsuri (if indeed that is what it is). There is a pronounced irregular dark band of steel between the utsuri and the hamon.

The hamon is based on suguha with assorted small gunome variations in nioi with no nie visible anywhere. There is a thin dark line running within the hamon just below the nioiguchi…..impossible to image. 

There are layers of fine sunagashi at various points.

Please, I’d love to know what you think. Apologies for lack of photographic skills. 
Thanks for looking. 

[Mikaveli]

50 minutes ago, Matsunoki said:

The presence of a clear boshi with small  kaeri suggests to me that it was the style of naginata that are sometimes referred to as Nagamaki ie the longer variety with far less sori and swelling than generally associated with later Naginata. 

 

My understanding was that Nagamaki is really just a koshirae choice, and that the absence of a deep curvature wouldn't necessarily mean that's how it would have been fitted (though it would seem more unlikely in the other direction).

 

Seeing the original tang may have been a better clue? Some of the naginata I've seen are relatively narrow in comparison (inserted into a pole, rather than wider tsukamaki wrapped around).

[Rivkin]

Main problem it has been acid etched so its hard to judge. Yes, its one of provincial Yamato types - Houju, Naminohira, Uda, Hokke are likely culprits, in deep theory it can be shikkake yamato. Uda is most likely.

Timewise... Early Muromachi? And it can be naginata naoshi zukuri, but I feel it more like to be simply naginata that has been shortened.

[Rayhan]

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