Dogditcher Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 What a heavy sword this is Its listed as 26 1/4" Mesatoshi Signed on both sides -Please transcribe if able 1 Quote
nulldevice Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 Its signed: 東神正茂作 昭和十九年三月日 Tojin? Masashige Saku A day in March 1944 2 Quote
Conway S Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 10 minutes ago, Navy said: Why "marine" sword? There is a common misconception amongst militaria collectors that swords in this style of mounts are "navy/marine landing forces" swords. Conway 1 Quote
Kiipu Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 Carefully look for a "star" stamp and check the nakago mune (top of the tang) for any markings. WW2 star stamp signature help Quote
Dogditcher Posted April 18 Author Report Posted April 18 27 minutes ago, Kiipu said: Carefully look for a "star" stamp and check the nakago mune (top of the tang) for any markings. Thanks-will do next time i am where the sword is and report back-I had taken these pics before i was schooled to look on top of nakago - Thanks I appreciate everyone's replies Steve Quote
Kiipu Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 Maybe a name of a forge? Gendaito by Masakuni RJT @mecox Quote
Dogditcher Posted April 18 Author Report Posted April 18 33 minutes ago, Kiipu said: Maybe a name of a forge? Gendaito by Masakuni RJT Good Catch 2 Quote
Brian Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 That star is always such a nice revelation :-) Guaranteed Gendaito, and an instant upgrade. Quote
lonely panet Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 are the type 3s with rjt smiths popular?? got one i want to sell? Quote
Scogg Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 5 hours ago, lonely panet said: are the type 3s with rjt smiths popular?? got one i want to sell? Speaking personally; absolutely! Of all the WW2 koshirae types, I've always admired the "Type 3" fittings Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 And the star blades, gendaito, go for higher prices when the seller knows what he has. Reposting @SteveM's comment about the "Toshin" for ease: "In this case, Tōshin (東神) is a part of a longer name 日本刀東神鍛錬所 Japanese Sword Tōshin Forge. "Eastern Deity" is the direct, literal translation of the two characters that comprise the word tōshin, but in this case I think its just a name, and it alludes to the smith being affiliated with that particular forge. " I have one other Masakuni on file, used "Toshin" in the mei, and 3 Masashige. Interested in hearing from Mal on this. [edited. Had 2 Masakuni, but turned out they were the same sword, posted by 2 different guys] And waiting to hear back on the star and mune number. I have another Masashige with the number "71". Could not confirm it's location as it came from the text describing the blade on a sale page. Steve, Posting links to Nick Komiya's revelations about the history, making, and marketing of the Rinji seishiki, or Type 3, or Contengency model, Type 44, Marine Landing Sword. For those who don't follow links, the executive summary: Designed in 1938, using a loophole in the Type 98 Emperor authorization, to be a cheaper, more durable sword than the 98. Never was given an official designation (however turns out NONE of the officer swords were actually called "Type XX" by the military). Marketed in 1940, didn't really catch on until 1943 and on. An Army sword, not Navy, not Marine. True Significance of the Contengency Model sword Mistakenly Called the Type 3 Unveiling the Rinji-seishiki - 1940 2 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted Sunday at 04:27 PM Report Posted Sunday at 04:27 PM Great, Steve, thanks! So no star? Quote
Dogditcher Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Author Report Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Bruce my assumption was that i was looking on spine of the nakago for star and did not see anything other than 2-2 stamp (what does that represent ?) I can look a little harder on Nakago next visit -any particular place i should focus on - Thanks Steve Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted Monday at 03:09 AM Report Posted Monday at 03:09 AM It would be above the mei like this Quote
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