Line Auctioneers- Huge Suspect Lot (Mostly Tosogu) From Beverly Hills

[cluckdaddy76]

Live Auctioneer's has a large tosogu lot posted from some sort of auction house in California. First, it looks like they posted everything twice and the pics are not great quality, half the menuki are just a single shot of them from the back. Only one item has a storage box which is a big flag. Next, the tsuba appear to be very low quality and I see a ton of kozuka that appear to be replicas from what I can see in the pics. Just curious if anyone else saw this strange collection without any storage at all. They also have some pieces from an upcoming Bonham's auction, I really did not see anything too exciting here considering Bonham's does have great pieces sometimes. I use these sites to keep up on studying and keeping my eye trained. Check out the expected prices they think they are going to get from the CA auction, it is laughable. They have a few katana as well; these may be the most ridiculous of them all. Here is one they expect a range from $,1875-$2,750. If I am wrong, please let me know as I am simply trying to learn more every day.

 

Jason

 

[Spartancrest]

https://collectorsfirearms.com/112320-iron-tsuba-mgj750.html/  Brand new box - no cushions [slack quality]

 

Is the auction house selling "half" daisho? Or do you need to bid [and pay extra fees] on the other half of the set? 

https://collectorsfirearms.com/20694-dai-sho-tsuba-mgj1408.html/  Daisho? Where is the other one?

https://collectorsfirearms.com/20702-dai-sho-tsuba-mgj1405.html/  - Same question.  Where is the other one?

[Jesta]

I am always worried by antiques being advertised as “authentic” and “genuine”. It screams “honest, guv, no word of a lie…” to me. That, and the extremely low quality pictures, makes me very wary of this one. I can’t bid on something that I can’t see. 

[cluckdaddy76]

Dale, the website you just pasted links too appear to have some of the exact tsuba I was mentioning on Live Auctioneers. However, your website lists the location as Houston and the one I was referring to was located in California. Totally agree with you too Justyn, the need to describe as "authentic/genuine" is amusing to me. Would not a modern made tsuba still be a "genuine" tsuba no matter what? They definitely do not claim to even be "vintage" or "antique" just authentic which makes me laugh. I am surprised how this website with quite a bit of inventory collected so many undesirable pieces and are asking decent money for them...

 

Jason

[ROKUJURO]

Well, this "half" DAISHO TSUBA (they probably don't know what that is) 

https://collectorsfirearms.com/20702-dai-sho-tsuba-mgj1405.html/

seems to be a genuine cast trinket.

[cluckdaddy76]

And a real bargain at $450 

 

Jason

[Spartancrest]

https://paypayfleamarket.yahoo.co.jp/item/t1130313086   Not cast for $33 US.   

 

Good call on the cast Jean   The hitsu should have had a file run through to clean up the overrun!

2 hours ago, ROKUJURO said:

seems to be a genuine cast trinket.

 

[ROKUJURO]

In my opinion, the problem is not the production of cheap faked items. The sad thing is that people with no feel for the subject, for Japanese culture, and with no knowledge fall for it and buy them.