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Yasukuni Shrine WW2 Army General's Shin-gunto w/Tassel FOR SALE

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Brian

Brian

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28 minutes ago, Edward Mahle said:

How did you figure out it was a shrine sword? 


"YASUNORI (靖徳), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Tōkyō – “Kajiyama Yasunori kinsaku”
(梶山靖徳謹作), “Yasunori” (靖徳), “Yasunori kinsaku” (靖徳謹作), “Takenori” (武徳),
“Daitō ́a-mamori Masamune” (大東亜守正宗, “Masa-mune, for the protection of Greater East
Asia”), real name Kajiyama Tokutarō (梶山徳太郎), born February 16th 1881 in Nigata (仁方)
in Hiroshima Prefecture, other sources say he was born on April 2nd 1907 but this is disproved
by an extant blade dated 1938 and signed with “made at the age of 58,” he was the son of
Kajiyama Tomohira (梶山友平) and signed in early years like his father with the name Ujimasa
(氏正), he also studied under the Osafune smith Yokoyama Sukeyoshi (横山祐義), on July 8th
1933 he entered the Yasukuni forge and became the smith name Yasunori from the minister of
war Araki Sadao (荒木貞夫, 1877-1966), later he became the managing director of the forge, in
1934 he had the honour to for a guntō for the emperor, on September 13th 1934 he received the smith name Takenori (武徳) from general Nara Takeji (奈良武次, 1868-1962), from that time onwards he signed all blades made for the Yasukuni forge with Yasunori and all other privately made blades with Takenori, he retired in June 1940 and returned to Hiroshima, from November 20th 1943 onwards he signed his blades with “Daitō ́a-mamori Masamune” (大東亜守正宗) or just with “Masamune” (正宗), records show us that he made about 1,250 blades for the Yasukuni forge, his speciality was an excellently hardened suguha, he died on January 8th 1954, other sources say it was 1967, kihin-jōi (Akihide), Special Honor Seat at the 6th Shinsaku Nihontō Denrankai (新作日本刀展覧会, 1941)."

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Bugyotsuji Grand Master

Bugyotsuji

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Maybe you need to tell people you are a beginner and ask for gentleness before you pose your question.(?)

e.g. “Genuine question here, but…” etc.

 

For example your question above, after a sale has gone through, might seem to be a subtle criticism, throwing doubt at the seller as if you know more than them. When people are confused by your motivation in asking the question, they might chose a confused face.

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Stephen Grand Master

Stephen

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1 hour ago, Edward Mahle said:

No wonder why the Nihonto world is almost dead and gone keep up the great work lol 

Eddy I can guarantee you  Nihonto  world is not almost dead it's alive and well you've been here 5 years if you think someone's is being rude to you call him out you'll find out it's probably you this not understanding yeah I'm one of those old guys I've helped a lot of new guys and I thought you once or twice if not my bad pep pep cheerio stuff upper lip...say no more

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Edward Mahle

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15 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Eddy I can guarantee you  Nihonto  world is not almost dead it's alive and well you've been here 5 years if you think someone's is being rude to you call him out you'll find out it's probably you this not understanding yeah I'm one of those old guys I've helped a lot of new guys and I thought you once or twice if not my bad pep pep cheerio stuff upper lip...say no more

This was not in anyway directed towards the older gentleman like your self. Do you show alittle tough yes haha that’s appreciated actually. 
 

I’m sorry I came off alittle extreme, just reacted  to something that’s been annoying me for sometime now. 

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Brian

Brian

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As mentioned, discussions in a for sale listing are frowned upon, and can affect the sale.
In this case, it was easy to answer. Also Google.
All good, I'm sure many learned a bit about his swords now. But let's keep the questions to the other sections out of respect to sellers.

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Edward Mahle Rising Star

Edward Mahle

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7 hours ago, Bugyotsuji said:

Maybe you need to tell people you are a beginner and ask for gentleness before you pose your question.(?)

e.g. “Genuine question here, but…” etc.

 

For example your question above, after a sale has gone through, might seem to be a subtle criticism, throwing doubt at the seller as if you know more than them. When people are confused by your motivation in asking the question, they might chose a confused face.

Not really a beginner question… how did they figure out it was a shrine sword? Good question considering no info on how that came about was with this post. I don’t want to search endlessly for something I had a small curiosity about. I like human interaction my search engine is far less engaging than someone responding to my question don’t you think? 

Brian

Brian

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Did you read the post I highlighted above?
"...September 13th 1934 he received the smith name Takenori (武徳) from general Nara Takeji (奈良武次, 1868-1962), from that time onwards he signed all blades made for the Yasukuni forge with Yasunori, and all other privately made blades with Takenori"
Elementary my dear Watson.

I got that by Googling "yasunori yasukuni swords" and it was in the first few links.

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David Flynn

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Sorry but you're wrong Brian, Takenori was this smiths  uncle.  When Kotani  was given the name, Yasunori, his uncle changed the Shape of his Nakago, so people would know the difference.  Also, His Nori was a different Kanji.

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