Tojo sword seller has a new gem to tempt you.

[KungFooey]

Wow! Rare blackened gunto fittings (with all matching 'numbers' made by a raccoon's claw) and the usual complementary/contemporary chain hanger thrown in.

I imagine the blade - with only very minor kizu - is meant to tempt us as being a possible Muramasa. 🤔

 

Judge for yourselves.

 

https://page.auction...tion?aID=m1172920706

 

 

[moriarty]

Would definitely tempt me to commit seppuku..

[Ontario_Archaeology]

The language in the title is more than enough for me to avoid this user more than the sketchy seller 🤣

[KungFooey]

7 hours ago, Ontario_Archaeology said:

The language in the title is more than enough for me to avoid this user more than the sketchy seller 🤣

Oh, am I meant to be offended by that put down Matt? Takes a lot more than snide remarks and downvotes, sweetheart. 😊
 

Despite the somewhat sarcastic title, the original intention of this post was to highlight a Japanese dealer who had already made a huge profit on an obvious forgery and was now attempting to sell a gunto with the very rare blackened fittings. These are very obviously also modern made and therefore my sole intention was to warn the many gunto collectors out there.

If you took it as something more devious than that, well that's on you.

[Ontario_Archaeology]

you use an old slur against Japanese people and then play the victim? 

[Conway S]

The title was a reference to this Yahoo JP seller who previously listed a sword they claimed belonged to Hideki Tojo. It was not intended as a racial slur. Understandable that poor phrasing could cause confusion. But then again, who would come to this forum to disrespect Japanese? 
 

Conway 

[KungFooey]

8 minutes ago, Ontario_Archaeology said:

you use an old slur against Japanese people and then play the victim? 

Perhaps take a peek around before climbing on your soapbox.

 

Yasutoku - made for Hideki Tojo. 🤣 - Military Swords of Japan - Nihonto Message Board

[Ontario_Archaeology]

That wasn't even in this thread, maybe use the same thread to post about the same seller to avoid confusion. 

[KungFooey]

Or maybe say sorry for accusing me of calling Japanese people "Tojo" without even checking facts first.

[PNSSHOGUN]

From what I can see the Koshirae is at least original, everything after that is rather suspect. Perhaps a general thread on suspect Gunto would be useful, rather than a new thread on every shoddy listing.

[Ontario_Archaeology]

There was nothing else to go off of as reference other than a 2 week old thread. The forum doesn't revolve around your posts, not everyone is going to see that. 
 

[Bruce Pennington]

A simple "OH! Haven't seen that thread" would sufice.

 

Nothing I like better than hoping to read about swords, then spend the rest of the morning reading people arguing.  

[KungFooey]

6 minutes ago, Bruce Pennington said:

A simple "OH! Haven't seen that thread" would sufice.

 

Nothing I like better than hoping to read about swords, then spend the rest of the morning reading people arguing.  

You are absolutely right Bruce and I do apologize.
I shouldn't bite at all my critics - it's just not worth it (and anyhow, there's far too many on here to lose any sleep about).

 

As you probably guessed, I was only trying to warn people off this particular dealer. Often newbies trust Japanese sellers more than others simply because they are Japanese (and no Matt, that isn't being racist).

 

John @PNSSHOGUN that's a very productive idea and makes far more sense than what I've been doing.
Thank you.

 

Dee

[Bruce Pennington]

Thanks Dee, nice reply.  The first line of my post was a suggestion for Matt, in case it wasn't clear.  And now ... here I am talking about talking rather than swords!! Ha!  

[Stephen]

[Kotetsu1959]

     Don’t we have enough in this world to be angry about without pulling a hair trigger here to blast someone based on the assumption of a mean spirit? One of the most destructive aspects of our hobby is that some dealers take advantage of those who are less sophisticated. I applaud Dee for making people aware that caution must be exercised as we evaluate what the market presents to us. 
     It would be helpful if we all were more cautious about blasting one another without very careful consideration of the reason. Here it is clear that Dee’s focus was on the sword, and what was being presented about the sword. The shift into a personal attack was wrong. I respectfully suggest an apology is in order. 

[KungFooey]

11 hours ago, Kotetsu1959 said:

     Don’t we have enough in this world to be angry about without pulling a hair trigger here to blast someone based on the assumption of a mean spirit? One of the most destructive aspects of our hobby is that some dealers take advantage of those who are less sophisticated. I applaud Dee for making people aware that caution must be exercised as we evaluate what the market presents to us. 
     It would be helpful if we all were more cautious about blasting one another without very careful consideration of the reason. Here it is clear that Dee’s focus was on the sword, and what was being presented about the sword. The shift into a personal attack was wrong. I respectfully suggest an apology is in order. 

Those words really mean a lot to me Ray.

Thank you so much!

Dee