KungFooey Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 My take on this (which means very little, I know) is that Aoi Arts put the sword in for a combined Hozon/Tokubetsu Hozon shinsa in November or possibly January and it passed the first but not the second due to the retempering. Hence their perceived disappointment. However, you apparently get a card or letter informing you of the judgement long before you get the actual papers, Therefore, @nihon could legitimately ask for an attachment showing at least that before bidding. Dee Quote
Shugyosha Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Well the bidding hasn't gone crazy so far, only three bidders up to now. I assume that there will be a bunch of snipers hiding on the long grass but I thought there would be more interest. 1 Quote
KungFooey Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 Well, whoever 'KS' is, they seem quite determined to get this. Creeping towards ¥2M. Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 2 hours ago, KungFooey said: Well, whoever 'KS' is, they seem quite determined to get this. Creeping towards ¥2M. 2.5M JPY final price Edit: Nevermind the auction is still going, might go even higher Quote
KungFooey Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, nulldevice said: 2.5M JPY final price Edit: Nevermind the auction is still going, might go even higher Two previously uninvolved snipers came out of the woodwork at the last moment. 1 Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Just now, KungFooey said: Two previously uninvolved snipers came out of the woodwork at the last moment. 2.65M and climbing. We might see this go to 3M JPY Quote
KungFooey Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Looks like 'Singnil' just nosed across the finishing line. I hope they were one of the members here but unlikely; probably a Japanese or Russian high flyer. Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, KungFooey said: Looks like 'Singnil' just nosed across the finishing line. 2,702,000JPY final price. $17,616 or 17,006 euro 2 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Thanks guys for the running commentary! 1 Quote
nihon Posted February 12 Author Report Posted February 12 20 minutes ago, KungFooey said: Looks like 'Singnil' just nosed across the finishing line. I hope they were one of the members here but unlikely; probably a Japanese or Russian high flyer. Singnil is me, will show the papers once I receive the sword 8 1 Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, nihon said: Singnil is me, will show the papers once I receive the sword Enjoy the sword! Quote
nihon Posted February 12 Author Report Posted February 12 Just now, nulldevice said: Enjoy the sword! Thanks Quote
KungFooey Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 11 minutes ago, nihon said: Singnil is me, will show the papers once I receive the sword You are a damn fine sniper, sir! My heartiest congratulations - this sword was obviously meant for you! Dee 1 Quote
Tohagi Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Well done! Very smart move. Congratulations ! Hope you'll put some pictures in natural light! Quote
Rivkin Posted Saturday at 11:25 PM Report Posted Saturday at 11:25 PM Personally: In terms of sugata I would compare it a larger type of kodachi, and in this case its a good match, but unfortunately more or less similar proportions were practiced from early Kamakura to mid Nanbokucho. The work itself is quite a significant departure from Tomonari (i.e. "Mogusa"-Yamato influence in nie) and tilts more towards ko-Ichimonji direction. Retempering is a very interesting conclusion since there is no mizukage and the curvature while deep does not come out as wildly departing from the norm. Probably very faint utsuri and somewhat repressed hada were taken as evidence its saiha. I would not expect NBTHK to put any extra information on the papers, so assuming it just states Tomoyasu (saiha). I don't think this would be past mid-Kamakura, but at the same time I don't think there is a strong guarantee its ko Bizen specifically, though maybe papers do say its ko Bizen... Looks like a great candidate for Tanobe sensei's sayagaki, probably on a separate saya. Quote
nihon Posted Sunday at 12:16 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 12:16 AM 49 minutes ago, Rivkin said: Personally: In terms of sugata I would compare it a larger type of kodachi, and in this case its a good match, but unfortunately more or less similar proportions were practiced from early Kamakura to mid Nanbokucho. The work itself is quite a significant departure from Tomonari (i.e. "Mogusa"-Yamato influence in nie) and tilts more towards ko-Ichimonji direction. Retempering is a very interesting conclusion since there is no mizukage and the curvature while deep does not come out as wildly departing from the norm. Probably very faint utsuri and somewhat repressed hada were taken as evidence its saiha. I would not expect NBTHK to put any extra information on the papers, so assuming it just states Tomoyasu (saiha). I don't think this would be past mid-Kamakura, but at the same time I don't think there is a strong guarantee its ko Bizen specifically, though maybe papers do say its ko Bizen... Looks like a great candidate for Tanobe sensei's sayagaki, probably on a separate saya. I'm actually getting a sayagaki from Tanobe sensei right as we speak. 1 Quote
nulldevice Posted Sunday at 12:33 AM Report Posted Sunday at 12:33 AM 13 minutes ago, nihon said: I'm actually getting a sayagaki from Tanobe sensei right as we speak. Good call. Tanobe had a lot to elaborate on with my sword and gave a firmer attribution than the NBTHK did. His opinion is always a good addition, especially on any early swords coming out of Japan. Quote
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