KungFooey Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 My take on this (which means very little, I know) is that Aoi Arts put the sword in for a combined Hozon/Tokubetsu Hozon shinsa in November or possibly January and it passed the first but not the second due to the retempering. Hence their perceived disappointment. However, you apparently get a card or letter informing you of the judgement long before you get the actual papers, Therefore, @nihon could legitimately ask for an attachment showing at least that before bidding. Dee Quote
Shugyosha Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Well the bidding hasn't gone crazy so far, only three bidders up to now. I assume that there will be a bunch of snipers hiding on the long grass but I thought there would be more interest. 1 Quote
KungFooey Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 Well, whoever 'KS' is, they seem quite determined to get this. Creeping towards ¥2M. Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/11/2025 at 11:24 PM, KungFooey said: Well, whoever 'KS' is, they seem quite determined to get this. Creeping towards ¥2M. Expand 2.5M JPY final price Edit: Nevermind the auction is still going, might go even higher Quote
KungFooey Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 1:30 AM, nulldevice said: 2.5M JPY final price Edit: Nevermind the auction is still going, might go even higher Expand Two previously uninvolved snipers came out of the woodwork at the last moment. 1 Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 1:35 AM, KungFooey said: Two previously uninvolved snipers came out of the woodwork at the last moment. Expand 2.65M and climbing. We might see this go to 3M JPY Quote
KungFooey Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Looks like 'Singnil' just nosed across the finishing line. I hope they were one of the members here but unlikely; probably a Japanese or Russian high flyer. Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 1:41 AM, KungFooey said: Looks like 'Singnil' just nosed across the finishing line. Expand 2,702,000JPY final price. $17,616 or 17,006 euro 2 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Thanks guys for the running commentary! 1 Quote
nihon Posted February 12 Author Report Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 1:41 AM, KungFooey said: Looks like 'Singnil' just nosed across the finishing line. I hope they were one of the members here but unlikely; probably a Japanese or Russian high flyer. Expand Singnil is me, will show the papers once I receive the sword 9 1 Quote
nulldevice Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:04 AM, nihon said: Singnil is me, will show the papers once I receive the sword Expand Enjoy the sword! Quote
nihon Posted February 12 Author Report Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:12 AM, nulldevice said: Enjoy the sword! Expand Thanks Quote
KungFooey Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:04 AM, nihon said: Singnil is me, will show the papers once I receive the sword Expand You are a damn fine sniper, sir! My heartiest congratulations - this sword was obviously meant for you! Dee 1 Quote
Tohagi Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Well done! Very smart move. Congratulations ! Hope you'll put some pictures in natural light! Quote
Rivkin Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 Personally: In terms of sugata I would compare it a larger type of kodachi, and in this case its a good match, but unfortunately more or less similar proportions were practiced from early Kamakura to mid Nanbokucho. The work itself is quite a significant departure from Tomonari (i.e. "Mogusa"-Yamato influence in nie) and tilts more towards ko-Ichimonji direction. Retempering is a very interesting conclusion since there is no mizukage and the curvature while deep does not come out as wildly departing from the norm. Probably very faint utsuri and somewhat repressed hada were taken as evidence its saiha. I would not expect NBTHK to put any extra information on the papers, so assuming it just states Tomoyasu (saiha). I don't think this would be past mid-Kamakura, but at the same time I don't think there is a strong guarantee its ko Bizen specifically, though maybe papers do say its ko Bizen... Looks like a great candidate for Tanobe sensei's sayagaki, probably on a separate saya. Quote
nihon Posted February 16 Author Report Posted February 16 On 2/15/2025 at 11:25 PM, Rivkin said: Personally: In terms of sugata I would compare it a larger type of kodachi, and in this case its a good match, but unfortunately more or less similar proportions were practiced from early Kamakura to mid Nanbokucho. The work itself is quite a significant departure from Tomonari (i.e. "Mogusa"-Yamato influence in nie) and tilts more towards ko-Ichimonji direction. Retempering is a very interesting conclusion since there is no mizukage and the curvature while deep does not come out as wildly departing from the norm. Probably very faint utsuri and somewhat repressed hada were taken as evidence its saiha. I would not expect NBTHK to put any extra information on the papers, so assuming it just states Tomoyasu (saiha). I don't think this would be past mid-Kamakura, but at the same time I don't think there is a strong guarantee its ko Bizen specifically, though maybe papers do say its ko Bizen... Looks like a great candidate for Tanobe sensei's sayagaki, probably on a separate saya. Expand I'm actually getting a sayagaki from Tanobe sensei right as we speak. 1 Quote
nulldevice Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 On 2/16/2025 at 12:16 AM, nihon said: I'm actually getting a sayagaki from Tanobe sensei right as we speak. Expand Good call. Tanobe had a lot to elaborate on with my sword and gave a firmer attribution than the NBTHK did. His opinion is always a good addition, especially on any early swords coming out of Japan. Quote
nihon Posted March 11 Author Report Posted March 11 It's been a while but aoi has just sent me the picture of the nbthk certificate 3 Quote
Jacques Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 Frankly, I'll always wonder how anyone could spend more than $18,000 on something we never seen other than through photos. 2 Quote
Okan Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 On 3/11/2025 at 9:50 AM, Jacques said: Frankly, I'll always wonder how anyone could spend more than $18,000 on something we never seen other than through photos. Expand It's pretty easy when you trust your eyes and the dealer or person. 2 Quote
Jacques Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 On 3/11/2025 at 10:58 AM, Okan said: It's pretty easy when you trust your eyes and the dealer or person. Expand The problem is, as a physicist, I know that my eyes can be deceived. I know I'm an idiot, but I want to see what I'm buying. Quote
Schneeds Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 Unless my AI is wrong, you got exactly the attribution as promised. Ko Bizen, Tomoyasu, and they even specified it as a kodachi. Very nice! Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 Thank you for the follow up Jedediah. It does look like a truely rare blade. Congratulations 1 Quote
Jacques Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 On 3/11/2025 at 8:10 PM, Schneeds said: Unless my AI is wrong, you got exactly the attribution as promised. Ko Bizen, Tomoyasu, and they even specified it as a kodachi. Very nice! Expand Yes but Saiha Quote
Franco Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 Quote "It's the sword that finds the owner." - CL Expand Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 Change the topic to: "Would it grab get you?" Quote
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