cluckdaddy76 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Part of how I study is to follow questionable pieces at auctions and see the outcome. This one stood out to me because of the same color sekigane. Sorry for the poor circling in the pic, but people with knowledge clearly do not need me to point this out. Am I missing something or is this a reproduction piece as I am guessing? I have noticed recently when it comes to auctions that there seem to be newer collectors with some money possibly making very bad choices. Thought this might be an interesting discussion, I would love to hear feedback from a few of the tsuba collectors with much more knowledge than me. Jason 1 Quote
parfaitelumiere Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 I saw several cast Soten tsuba, actually well cast and having electronic gold or silver plating, on iron or bronze base, but same as you are pointing, cast massive sekigane, added to weaker design and more blurry finish, it's a good way to recognize things which are becoming more and more common... It would be interesting to see other pictures of that tsuba, here all seems made from same material, are there copper silver or gold color accents? Quote
ROKUJURO Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Jason, this seems to be a black and white photos, so I think it is difficult to see what the SEKI-GANE are made of. Quote
cluckdaddy76 Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 Sorry for the pic quality, best i can do in this case Quote
cluckdaddy76 Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 With taxes, fees, and shipping, winner paid close to $700 USD for this gem. Quote
Jesta Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Too many red flags for me. The sekigane and the treatment of the water are very similar to one that I bought at the start of my collecting journey: I would find it hard to think that this one is not a modern cast. Quote
cluckdaddy76 Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 Too bad auction sites don't have a commentary section while bidding occurs, we could help people from buying these items. There is no way any auction site will add that feature in my opinion, they are there to make money and let the buyer beware!!! Quote
Jesta Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 2 hours ago, cluckdaddy76 said: Too bad auction sites don't have a commentary section while bidding occurs, we could help people from buying these items. There is no way any auction site will add that feature in my opinion, they are there to make money and let the buyer beware!!! You aren’t wrong… It goes with the territory, which I think is why the best advice for beginners is to avoid the auction sites that take no responsibility for what is sold (e.g. eBay), to be prepared to make a few mistakes, to keep those mistakes as cheap as possible, and to learn from them… Threads like this do help, since there is a good chance that someone looking to start collecting may well wander in and read them before buying. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 There are millions of NLO (Netsuké-like objects) out there to catch the novice. One of the challenges for any budding collector is to swim through the field, avoiding the tricks and traps, and to train the eye to recognize those rare gems. In the same way perhaps we need an expression like TLO to designate such ‘tsuba-like objects’ as the one you spotted. Of course, if you have the time you can study, and if you have the money you can go to a reputable dealer, hear their story, pay top dollar, and buy more safely. 3 1 Quote
parfaitelumiere Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 the same type of cast stuff as I described, the second exemple is similar to what I saw, I remember a thread here with a rooster tsuba, people thought about real work, but it was a cast piece, I spotted it as I saw a similar one on yahoo. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 17 hours ago, Jesta said: .....the best advice for beginners is to avoid the auction sites...., to be prepared to make a few mistakes, to keep those mistakes as cheap as possible, and to learn from them… .. Well Justyn, could you imagine a living person who buys as cheap as possible, who does not believe they made mistakes, and who does not learn from the items? 1 4 Quote
Jesta Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Well Jean… In my day job, I’m a teacher, so I try to live in the belief that people can learn (despite evidence to the contrary) 🤣🤣 3 1 2 Quote
Stephen Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 10 hours ago, ROKUJURO said: Well Justyn, could you imagine a living person who buys as cheap as possible, who does not believe they made mistakes, and who does not learn from the items? Going to have to steal that Jean 1 Quote
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