fujidog Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 Hi Everyone, Long time collector. First time poster I have 3x Nihonto here. Hoping to identify them. I have labeled them A, B, and C to make things easy. Any help is appreciated. Cheers Dave Quote
fujidog Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 Some more photos for anyone interested. I will take some more of the last piece soon.. Quote
nulldevice Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 B: Izumi no kami fujiwara Kunisada 和泉守藤原国貞 C: Taikei Naotane 大慶直胤 Quote
nulldevice Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Here are a few links that talk about the latter 2 smiths. I can't tell you if the mei is genuine or not but I do know that both Kunisada and Naotane are both very highly regarded smiths. https://www.nihontoc...mi_Kunisada_mei.html https://markussesko....nes-odd-aging-habit/ Quote
fujidog Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 Some further pics on "C - Taikei Naotane". Is this Nashiji-Hada?, its so fine im not sure if its even there... The overall polish feels a bit amateurish to me. Some superficial grindlines. The kissaki polish is a bit rough. I took photos to emphasis this but still. - I think its a re-polish... Any idea anyone? Quote
fujidog Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 Some literal light shed on A's mei , hoping if some can share some figurative light Quote
KungFooey Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Hi Dave, I really don't want to rain on your parade but, as @nulldevice said, Naotane is a BIG name and repeatedly copied. I'd hold off on plastering his name all over your photos. On the left is the mei of a Tokubetsu Hozon verified Naotane (link below), on the right yours. Apart from the fact the genuine article is signed tachimei and yours katanamei, can you see the obvious differences? Dee https://www.samuraim...u-hozon-certificate/ 1 Quote
KungFooey Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Same deal with the Kanesada, I'm afraid. Papered on the left, yours on the right. Sorry😥 Dee Early Edo Katana signed by Kunisada for sale | Samurai Museum Shop 1 1 Quote
Brian Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Genuine swords, likely false signatures. Appear to be Western restorations/polish done by the usual type of self taught restorers. You always get that dry hard look to the polish and artificially enhanced hamon. But not that unusual, and you'll have the edit your post and reupload C pics 1 Quote
fujidog Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 Thanks for the help guys. I will re edit the post, don't want to spread false info. Just trying to make it easy for everyone to follow. 1 Quote
KungFooey Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 6:50 AM, fujidog said: Thanks for the help guys. I will re edit the post, don't want to spread false info. Just trying to make it easy for everyone to follow. Expand Hi again Dave, I really hope I didn't come across as trying to rub your nose in it - you've got some nice, genuine Japanese swords there. Basically, anything that has an outrageously famous name on it should be considered 'guilty until proven innocent' by shinsa. Putting someone else's name on a sword is almost a Japanese tradition - it's been going on for centuries! All the best, Dee Quote
Matsunoki Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 8:49 AM, KungFooey said: Just trying to make it easy for everyone to follow. Expand Putting each sword on a different thread would have made it much easier!!….especially for someone like me who gets confused easily🙂 Maybe next time. Happy hunting. Quote
Kanenaga Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 About sword A, from the nakago-jiri and the use of the "mori" kanji (can't make out the other), I suspect this may be a kongobei blade. 1 Quote
fujidog Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 8:49 AM, KungFooey said: Hi again Dave, I really hope I didn't come across as trying to rub your nose in it - you've got some nice, genuine Japanese swords there. Basically, anything that has an outrageously famous name on it should be considered 'guilty until proven innocent' by shinsa. Putting someone else's name on a sword is almost a Japanese tradition - it's been going on for centuries! All the best, Dee Expand Dee, no its fine. I have definitely heard of gemei. I was trying to make my overly complicated thread a bit clearer. I must admit I did get a bit excited reading up on those smiths though XD Quote
fujidog Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 8:51 AM, Matsunoki said: Putting each sword on a different thread would have made it much easier!!….especially for someone like me who gets confused easily🙂 Maybe next time. Happy hunting. Expand Noted. I do plan on getting more... Quote
fujidog Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 5:40 PM, Kanenaga said: About sword A, from the nakago-jiri and the use of the "mori" kanji (can't make out the other), I suspect this may be a kongobei blade. Expand Thanks for Les, Cheers Dave Quote
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