TylerKugler22 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 Can anyone please verify this before I purchase? Japanese NCO sword. Pictures and media to follow. Seller is asking 1200 for it. att.WgzZPH9epETXvYui_XHX1XXOovgnSqT-SkX4upi50zM.mp4 att.EObHCQfWM6vnkiIN5boFqFyka6n2Vj8TKszf4il6I-U.mp4 1 Quote
John C Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 Tyler: The tsuka looks legit, however something about those marks on the fuchi bother me. I have not personally seen that combination before (which doesn't mean much) and the Ijima Token Seisakusho stamp doesn't look right to me (see pic for comparison). Wait for someone more knowledgable than me to chime in before buying. John C. Quote
John C Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 @Bruce Pennington Any thoughts on this? John C. Quote
TylerKugler22 Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, John C said: Tyler: The tsuka looks legit, however something about those marks on the fuchi bother me. I have not personally seen that combination before (which doesn't mean much) and the Ijima Token Seisakusho stamp doesn't look right to me (see pic for comparison). Wait for someone more knowledgable than me to chime in before buying. John C. Thank you John. I hope it is real. Quote
Scogg Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 (edited) So I’m not an expert, but I very recently have been cataloging these. I have several swords on file with the same pattern, and stamp configuration. The ‘Iijima Sword Factory stamp’ and the ‘Kokura 4 cannonball stamp’ seem to be intermixed with swords that have @John C ‘s stamp configuration with the ‘Tokyo First Arsenal’s Star’ instead of the kokura cannonballs. One of the swords in particular, a very near serial number, is listed as having a “copper plated alloy Fuchi”, which is an anomaly on my list. Can you confirm or deny what the Fuchi might be made out of, and if it looks plated? Edit: my apologies, I see now that it’s a for sale listing and not in hand. I think it looks real, but I’d like more opinions too. Cheers, -Sam Edited January 23 by GeorgeLuucas 2 Quote
Conway S Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 For the fuchi, Kokura oversight of Iijima is still correct for this serial number range. The streaky paint on the scabbard may be an indication it was touched up or repainted. Conway 2 Quote
robinalexander Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Quick look seems ok BUT I'd like to see a better picture of the Fuchi stamps. and .... someone might be able to enlighten me on what is going on with the Kissaki, Yokote and the shape of the end of the Bohi? Just haven't seen all that going on, on a 95 before so, at this point, that's a red flag for me. Tyler I know you didn't ask for comment on the price but it was included above, soooo .... that's expensive! Quote
Kiipu Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 It was in the 137,000 range that Iijima began switching arsenal logos from Kokura to Tōkyō 1st. So both logos appear in this serial number range and slightly beyond. I agree with Conway that the scabbard might have been repainted. One can clearly see the paintbrush strokes running lengthwise. If this was done, then it is likely that the sword has been cleaned up in general. And finally, agree with "lonely panet" that it is real. Tyler, many thanks for posting the pictures. 1 1 Quote
TylerKugler22 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 Kiipu… thank you so much! I am going to move ahead and purchase then. Quote
Kiipu Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Tyler, I edited my post above as I looked at some of the wrong pictures. The 137,000 range would date from late in fiscal year 1942 (April 1942 to March 1943). For an advanced education about Type 95s, carefully read the WRF thread via the link below. Short Development History of Type 95 Gunto Senility is a terrible thing to waste! 1 1 Quote
TylerKugler22 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Kiipu said: Tyler, I edited my post above as I looked at some of the wrong pictures. The 137,000 range would date from late in fiscal year 1942 (April 1942 to March 1943). For an advanced education about Type 95s, carefully read the WRF thread via the link below. Short Development History of Type 95 Gunto Senility is a terrible thing to waste! It is still authentic correct? Please don’t tell me it’s a fake! Quote
Kiipu Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Everything is still OK, I just looked at the wrong ferrule picture. Serial number 137101 was made by Iijima under Kokura Army Arsenal supervision. Shortly after, the supervising arsenal changed to Tōkyō 1st. The Tōkyō 1st logo can be seen in the picture in the 2nd post by John C. I would recommend reading up on these swords first and then buying. Ask Sam how easy that is! 2 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Everyone has covered it well, already. Price is normal range for a good Type 95 these days. Photo blurriness has distorted the Iijima stamp and made the kissaki-end of the bohi look sharply angled. Tokyo blades SHOULD have bohi that mirrors the shape of the kissaki, so the one in question is correct. My eyes first went to the slightly enlarged Kokura circles, but Steve @Shamsy has pointed out many times that there are variations in their stamps. So with everything else falling in line, the variant of the Kokura stamp is not something to worry about. 1 1 Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 On 1/23/2025 at 9:32 AM, TylerKugler22 said: It is still authentic correct? Please don’t tell me it’s a fake! It's not a fake,it has all original parts. 1 Quote
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