Jacques D. Posted December 14, 2024 Report Posted December 14, 2024 Yasutsugu but which generation ? Quote
KungFooey Posted December 14, 2024 Report Posted December 14, 2024 Hi Jacques! Can you post a better photo and I'll give it a try? You can't see the signature properly in this one - it's too blurry. Thanks! Dee Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted December 14, 2024 Report Posted December 14, 2024 越前安継 Echizen Yasutsugu 南蛮鐵? Nanban tetsu? Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 14, 2024 Author Report Posted December 14, 2024 Ok, Moriyama san found it, As the chart he posted shows, each generation has its own way of engraving the Tsugu character. ps Sorry for the quality of the photo, I took it a certain time ago and I no longer have access to this sword. Quote
KungFooey Posted December 14, 2024 Report Posted December 14, 2024 I was just comparing it to this but I was too late!!! 😥 Quote
nulldevice Posted December 14, 2024 Report Posted December 14, 2024 https://nihonto.com/the-yasutsugu-school-康継系/ This link has the chart as well as good photos of various generations Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 14, 2024 Author Report Posted December 14, 2024 Another mei with the same asking. Which generation ? Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 15, 2024 Author Report Posted December 15, 2024 No one to try a guess ? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted December 15, 2024 Report Posted December 15, 2024 For the Yasutsugu, first gen.(?) Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 15, 2024 Author Report Posted December 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Bugyotsuji said: For the Yasutsugu, first gen.(?) Yes. Quote
nulldevice Posted December 15, 2024 Report Posted December 15, 2024 On 12/14/2024 at 2:18 PM, Jacques D. said: Another mei with the same asking. Which generation ? I'd guess Omi No Kami Tadatsuna (1st Gen) My reasoning is it looks like the 1st gen Tadatsuna and the 2nd gen (Asai) both split the Tsuna kanji, but the 1st gen Mei examples I can find seem to have more triangular shaped "punch" like strokes on the small lines of the kanji where the 2nd gen looks to have slightly longer lines if that makes sense. Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 16, 2024 Author Report Posted December 16, 2024 This is the shodai but that's not where the difference lies I put a mei of the nidai so that you can try to find it. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted December 16, 2024 Report Posted December 16, 2024 The 岡 part of tsuna 綱 is completely different. Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 16, 2024 Author Report Posted December 16, 2024 My bad, i choosed a wrong example which is a later work just before changing his mei to Ikkanshi The correct one Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 17, 2024 Author Report Posted December 17, 2024 Still no one ? unless three people try, I'll keep the answer to myself. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted December 17, 2024 Report Posted December 17, 2024 Now I am confused. Which photos are we supposed to be comparing? Quote
Nihonto student Posted December 17, 2024 Report Posted December 17, 2024 Different symmetry of "Tada"? Shodai Nidai Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 17, 2024 Author Report Posted December 17, 2024 8 hours ago, Bugyotsuji said: Now I am confused. Which photos are we supposed to be comparing? the first (Omi no kami Tadatsuna) and the last i posted (with the classicla tsuna) Quote
Tcat Posted December 18, 2024 Report Posted December 18, 2024 Hi, is it the rendering of 近 in 近江? They look quite different. Quote
Jacques D. Posted December 18, 2024 Author Report Posted December 18, 2024 Giordy has part of the answer: the second lies in the way the mi kanji is engraved: for the shodai, the two horizontal strokes are engraved in parallel, whereas for the nidai they are engraved with a slight opening 1 Quote
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