Bruno Posted December 5 Report Posted December 5 Hi, I post this on behalf of a friend, as I know very little on tsuba in general. He bought it recently and could not find a similar example yet. Any info regarding, age, school, style etc, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 2 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted December 5 Report Posted December 5 The right side image shows an ONI, chased by SHÔKI. From he Inet: The legend of Shôki originated in China. Shôki was an aspiring scholar in China who committed suicide when he failed the examinations to become a government official. The emperor, when he realized the degree of Shôki's commitment to service, awarded him the title of doctor. Shôki then appeared to the emperor in a dream where he vowed to protect the empire from demons to show his gratitude. This side looks like iron while the other side - probably with FUJI-SAN, a river with a boat and a jumping carp - seems to be brass. Very unusual combination. My guess would be late 19th century, don't know a specific school. From the internet: Hirotoshi studied in Edo. He studied under Tamagawa Kichiyoshi. 1 Quote
Rivkin Posted December 5 Report Posted December 5 I would take both to be late Meiji period's work of the kind often described as hamamono: the topics are traditional, but the design is both crowded and dominated by large elements with overly grotesque execution. Quote
Kurikata Posted December 5 Report Posted December 5 Hammer price at 2300 euros plus 30 % taxes and fees.... 1 1 Quote
FlorianB Posted December 6 Report Posted December 6 Sorry to correct the "jumping carp": It's a KOINOBORI, a windsack in form of a carp used as an auspicious symbol on boy's day on May 5th. An UKIYO-E by Hiroshige (maybe the model for the TSUBA in question?): Best, Florian 3 1 1 Quote
Bruno Posted December 6 Author Report Posted December 6 18 hours ago, Kurikata said: Hammer price at 2300 euros plus 30 % taxes and fees. That looks like this one. I was aware of the final price... I forwarded the link of this thread to my friend so that he can follow the discussion. Thanks all. Quote
vajo Posted December 6 Report Posted December 6 Both are nice late Edo/Meji Tsuba. I like the iron tsuba. Can't read the signature clearly. Well done. Quote
Matsunoki Posted December 6 Report Posted December 6 Strange tsuba. The brass side looks like it could be a shiremono pressing affixed over an iron plate? I even wonder if the iron plate is cast with mixed metal onlay. Shoki’s face looks shibuichi or maybe shakudo and the Oni is also mixed/patinated soft metal. Might look/feel totally different “in hand” but its definitely “unusual” 1 Quote
vajo Posted December 6 Report Posted December 6 strange. How does it hold together. Is it possible to see a picture from the Mimi? Quote
Matsunoki Posted December 6 Report Posted December 6 @Spartancrest Dale…..ever seen anything like this one?…I mean the construction? Yes popular subject matter of course but hmmmmm…… Quote
BIG Posted December 6 Report Posted December 6 We do not have good luck with Hokusai, and now the same with Hiroshige ?? Where is the only man to judge that mistery, Dale please.. Quote
Spartancrest Posted December 7 Report Posted December 7 9 hours ago, Matsunoki said: ever seen anything like this one?…I mean the construction? Actually quite a lot of Bi-metal construction - https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34359 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34366 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34373 https://wwwhttps://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34460.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/34392 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34423 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34452 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34459 https://www.metmuseu...ection/search/642492 These are just in the Metropolitan Museum of Art alone. [handy that I did a catalogue of that museum's collection ] The image below is perhaps the closest - iron on one side sentoku on the other. Regrettably the museum has no images of the side view of the mimi. I hope this helps Two different metals fixed side by side https://www.the-sale...23-b4f2-ae8201239793 You can check out the Walters for more https://thewalters.o...erience/collections/ see these - 51.96 51.97 51.218 51.26 51.303 51.369 accession numbers - some are triple metal. [handy that I did a catalogue of that museum's collection as well! ] 5 Quote
Matsunoki Posted December 7 Report Posted December 7 4 hours ago, Spartancrest said: Actually quite a lot of Bi-metal construction - As usual, Dale saves the day! Amazing. Loads of research potential there. we are so lucky to have @Spartancrest🙂 Ignore my earlier reservations, it’s obviously a good piece. 2 Quote
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