Bruno Posted December 5, 2024 Report Posted December 5, 2024 Hi, I post this on behalf of a friend, as I know very little on tsuba in general. He bought it recently and could not find a similar example yet. Any info regarding, age, school, style etc, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 2 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted December 5, 2024 Report Posted December 5, 2024 The right side image shows an ONI, chased by SHÔKI. From he Inet: The legend of Shôki originated in China. Shôki was an aspiring scholar in China who committed suicide when he failed the examinations to become a government official. The emperor, when he realized the degree of Shôki's commitment to service, awarded him the title of doctor. Shôki then appeared to the emperor in a dream where he vowed to protect the empire from demons to show his gratitude. This side looks like iron while the other side - probably with FUJI-SAN, a river with a boat and a jumping carp - seems to be brass. Very unusual combination. My guess would be late 19th century, don't know a specific school. From the internet: Hirotoshi studied in Edo. He studied under Tamagawa Kichiyoshi. 1 Quote
Rivkin Posted December 5, 2024 Report Posted December 5, 2024 I would take both to be late Meiji period's work of the kind often described as hamamono: the topics are traditional, but the design is both crowded and dominated by large elements with overly grotesque execution. Quote
Kurikata Posted December 5, 2024 Report Posted December 5, 2024 Hammer price at 2300 euros plus 30 % taxes and fees.... 1 1 Quote
FlorianB Posted December 6, 2024 Report Posted December 6, 2024 Sorry to correct the "jumping carp": It's a KOINOBORI, a windsack in form of a carp used as an auspicious symbol on boy's day on May 5th. An UKIYO-E by Hiroshige (maybe the model for the TSUBA in question?): Best, Florian 3 1 1 Quote
Bruno Posted December 6, 2024 Author Report Posted December 6, 2024 18 hours ago, Kurikata said: Hammer price at 2300 euros plus 30 % taxes and fees. That looks like this one. I was aware of the final price... I forwarded the link of this thread to my friend so that he can follow the discussion. Thanks all. Quote
vajo Posted December 6, 2024 Report Posted December 6, 2024 Both are nice late Edo/Meji Tsuba. I like the iron tsuba. Can't read the signature clearly. Well done. Quote
Matsunoki Posted December 6, 2024 Report Posted December 6, 2024 Strange tsuba. The brass side looks like it could be a shiremono pressing affixed over an iron plate? I even wonder if the iron plate is cast with mixed metal onlay. Shoki’s face looks shibuichi or maybe shakudo and the Oni is also mixed/patinated soft metal. Might look/feel totally different “in hand” but its definitely “unusual” 1 Quote
vajo Posted December 6, 2024 Report Posted December 6, 2024 strange. How does it hold together. Is it possible to see a picture from the Mimi? Quote
Matsunoki Posted December 6, 2024 Report Posted December 6, 2024 @Spartancrest Dale…..ever seen anything like this one?…I mean the construction? Yes popular subject matter of course but hmmmmm…… Quote
BIG Posted December 6, 2024 Report Posted December 6, 2024 We do not have good luck with Hokusai, and now the same with Hiroshige ?? Where is the only man to judge that mistery, Dale please.. Quote
Spartancrest Posted December 7, 2024 Report Posted December 7, 2024 9 hours ago, Matsunoki said: ever seen anything like this one?…I mean the construction? Actually quite a lot of Bi-metal construction - https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34359 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34366 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34373 https://wwwhttps://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34460.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/34392 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34423 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34452 https://www.metmuseu...lection/search/34459 https://www.metmuseu...ection/search/642492 These are just in the Metropolitan Museum of Art alone. [handy that I did a catalogue of that museum's collection ] The image below is perhaps the closest - iron on one side sentoku on the other. Regrettably the museum has no images of the side view of the mimi. I hope this helps Two different metals fixed side by side https://www.the-sale...23-b4f2-ae8201239793 You can check out the Walters for more https://thewalters.o...erience/collections/ see these - 51.96 51.97 51.218 51.26 51.303 51.369 accession numbers - some are triple metal. [handy that I did a catalogue of that museum's collection as well! ] 5 Quote
Matsunoki Posted December 7, 2024 Report Posted December 7, 2024 4 hours ago, Spartancrest said: Actually quite a lot of Bi-metal construction - As usual, Dale saves the day! Amazing. Loads of research potential there. we are so lucky to have @Spartancrest🙂 Ignore my earlier reservations, it’s obviously a good piece. 2 Quote
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