Yagyu-ish Owari? (I still can't tell)

[KungFooey]

I'm interested in this guard - think it might be an Owari design. It's too big for Yagyu at 8cm but ticks some of the other boxes (thickness, square sides, rough surface). What do the experts think?

 

Thanks in advance!

Dee

[Dan tsuba]

Hey Dee!

I am not an expert on anything!

But I like the tsuba.  Not sure about the school, but I think the design is that of a temple bell.

I have about 150 tsuba, and not one temple bell!

Darn it, now I have to look around for one!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, etc!

[Toryu2020]

Dee

I would ask for more pictures - in this photo the condition does not look good. No expert here but I agree not Yagyu...

 

-t

[BIG]

A bit of an early Kanayama..

 

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[Curran]

21 minutes ago, Toryu2020 said:

Dee

I would ask for more pictures - in this photo the condition does not look good. No expert here but I agree not Yagyu...

 

-t

 

As Tom said.

 

[KungFooey]

Many thanks guys!

Dee

[Iaido dude]

The iron quality is very poor likely from rust/corrosion or even fire damage. I think it is generic Edo period. Then bonsho (temple bell motif) is of a design that I have not seen in Kanayama, Owari, Ohno, or Yagyu. The bottom of the bonsho is usually fused to the mimi at the left and right and is not cut at such sharp angles. That motif at the bottom may actually be a tsuba on its side or some other mon. Overall, the composition is very stiff and not typical of the Momoyama period. 

[Spartancrest]

        Three Kanayama  -  - 0ne Owari -

I am no expert but they look very hard to tell the difference? 

  This one is described as Yagyu - but if we are judging surface texture or the cut of the mimi - good luck with that in this condition! 

[Spartancrest]

   This image is a little better, the patina and colour come across a little less pitted.