DaveM4P99 Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 Hi all. What do we think of this Tsuba? And why would the sukashi be filled in?? Reading on here, the filling of sukashi spaces is usually referred as gan-kin (嵌金)...but I am unsure of the purpose. Thanks for any info on this! Thanks! Dave Quote
Grey Doffin Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 Hi Dave, Unless my eyes fail me, this isn't a sukashi tsuba. The filled openings are the ryo-hitsu, for kotsuka & kogai. They are filled because the last time the tsuba was mounted to a sword there were no kotsuka and kogai, and the owner wanted them filled. Sukashi refers to openwork design, not function. Grey Quote
kissakai Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 I expect the design represents something but other will have to help you Is that the moon peaking behind the clouds? Quote
DaveM4P99 Posted November 4 Author Report Posted November 4 1 hour ago, Grey Doffin said: Hi Dave, Unless my eyes fail me, this isn't a sukashi tsuba. The filled openings are the ryo-hitsu, for kotsuka & kogai. They are filled because the last time the tsuba was mounted to a sword there were no kotsuka and kogai, and the owner wanted them filled. Sukashi refers to openwork design, not function. Grey Ok thank you! I was unsure of the vocabulary. Although, the Nakago-ana is also filled in with gold, where the blade would go. Strange no? Quote
kyushukairu Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 One potential explanation is that someone who owned the tsuba wanted to convert it into a paperweight (bunchin 文鎮), and added lead to the kogai-ana, and brass to the nakago-ana to make it more functional (for their intended purpose) 2 Quote
DaveM4P99 Posted November 6 Author Report Posted November 6 21 hours ago, kyushukairu said: One potential explanation is that someone who owned the tsuba wanted to convert it into a paperweight (bunchin 文鎮), and added lead to the kogai-ana, and brass to the nakago-ana to make it more functional (for their intended purpose) Interesting thought! Thank you! Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 Artistically very satisfying composition. Perhaps the owner felt happier filling in the nakago ana, knowing it would never again be fitted to a sword, preferring a gold centerpiece over a sharp-edged opening. 1 Quote
Kanenaga Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 It's a Kaneie-style tsuba, and I quite like it. Hitsuana are often seen filled in, but I've never seen the nakagoana filled. Quote
Spartancrest Posted November 9 Report Posted November 9 (edited) A tsuba converted into a Netsuke by plugging the nakago-ana. https://www.ebay.com/itm/166471369863 A fuchi similarly converted. https://www.ebay.com/itm/166469540444 Image from a post by GRC November 22, 2021 These examples may not be the same as David's. Nice mystery with the three different metal fillings. Another from the Spencer Museum of Art, University of Kansas. https://spencerartap...arch/works/1928.2356 Edited November 9 by Spartancrest More images 2 Quote
Bazza Posted November 9 Report Posted November 9 Interesting last tsuba. Ko-Kinko??? I would give it house room... BaZZa. 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted November 10 Report Posted November 10 9 hours ago, Bazza said: BaZZa. No, I don't think it is a clunker. Wish we could see what the seppa-dai looks like, there could be a good signature under there! The nanako is very fine under the slightly worn patina. Just a glimpse of sekigane there at the top of the first image, suggesting the tsuba is imaged upside down? Quote
ROKUJURO Posted November 10 Report Posted November 10 Yes Dale, it seems so if you look at the sticker with the number. Quote
Spartancrest Posted November 10 Report Posted November 10 1 hour ago, ROKUJURO said: sticker with the number. I think this particular museum has something of a random pattern where it puts the sticker numbers 1 Quote
Iekatsu Posted November 11 Report Posted November 11 Yup Ko-kinko, a shame that it ended up like that. 1 Quote
Robert S Posted November 12 Report Posted November 12 Converting a tsuba to a netsuke would make a pretty heavy netsuke! 1 Quote
Rivkin Posted November 13 Report Posted November 13 On 11/10/2024 at 3:35 PM, Spartancrest said: I think this particular museum has something of a random pattern where it puts the sticker numbers As long as its special strength superglue and the number is doubled by chiseling across the plate - everything is fine. 1 1 Quote
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