Yamazakura Fr Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Hello I have this new wakizashi with signature to identificate This is naoshi naginata (no yokote , unokobi zukuri, iori mune) total length 46,6 cm nagasa 36,2 cm Can anyone translate the signature (I think the thirth kanji for ju and the last hiro?) Regards Bernard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shugyosha Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Hi Bernard, Perhaps 相州住冬廣- Soshu ju Fuyuhiro. I'm not convinced about the "Fuyu" kanji though, so that's a bit of a a guess and hopefully someone else can either confirm or suggest a better match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco D Posted Friday at 05:33 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 05:33 PM 10 hours ago, Yamazakura Fr said: This is naoshi naginata I see no evidence that this is anything more than a shobu zukuri wakizashi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toryu2020 Posted Friday at 07:09 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:09 PM If naginata-naoshi then all or part of the signature would be gone. This is ubu and I agree Soshu ju Fuyuhiro. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamazakura Fr Posted Saturday at 01:27 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:27 PM Thank you for your information Sory for the naginata naoshi but I was misled by the shape of the unokobi zukuri blade that we find on the naginata but it is indeed a wakizashi ubu Does anyone have any information about the blacksmith Soshu Fuyuhiro koto because the only information I have concerns Fuyuhiro Jakushu (wakasa) we found Soshu Fuyuhiro in the Zuikan Tomei Soran with TS332 reference but I have not this Best regards Bernard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shugyosha Posted Saturday at 02:00 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:00 PM The Shoshin website suggests that the first Wakasa Fuyuhiro was the son of the second generation Soshu Hirotsugu and moved from Sagami to Wakasa but I don't know any more: https://www.sho-shin.com/soshu.html https://www.sho-shin.com/hoku.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques D. Posted Saturday at 07:23 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:23 PM I don't think it's Wakasa Fuyuhiro (both shodai and nidai). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivkin Posted Saturday at 08:55 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:55 PM Plus: the signature is ok written per 16th century standards. Its roughly in the right place, with roughly the right strokes pressure for Sagami school. Its quite a bit rougher though than the better Soshu smiths of the period. Minus: most likely unrecorded person. But then "hiro" kanji is Soshu kanji and its not at all impossible there was one within the school. Minus: Just like with Bizen, with Sagami you do have fakes of things which raise eyebrows why on earth one would fake that. It is a very popular school even for non-great objects. Its basically for you to decide. As is it is unlikely to paper - what if the work is just completely different and therefore the papers will look stupid after its polished. If you polish and its hitatsura than there is a good chance it will be accepted as unrecorded smith. Say it comes out as a lesser work in suguha, then its again a lottery - Odawara Soshu in particular produced suguha during its earliest (1470) and latest (1570) periods, but its more difficult to accept a combination of unknown signature and weird work. So I think its up to you. Roughly 50/50 chance its real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques D. Posted Saturday at 09:01 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:01 PM Quote with roughly the right strokes pressure for Sagami school. Explanations please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkirkpatrick Posted Saturday at 11:16 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:16 PM Additional if unrelated question; what would the value even be if polished to a reasonable hitasura with saya and hozon to unknown Soshu smith? I can’t imagine it’d be a lot more than the cost of all of that, fair argument that there is value in a nihonto saved notwithstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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