cdrcm12 Posted October 20 Report Posted October 20 Dear NMB, I've had this tsuba for a short time and have been studying it to identify a school. My thoughts are between Kyo-sukashi or Heianjo-sukashi. Whilst these school are very closely linked I'm leaning more to Heianjo. Would welcome any expert thoughts please? Details of tsuba below, with a couple of images: Aoi or hollyhock design Maru-gata Kaku mimi ko-niku H: 78mm W: 78mm Mimi: 5.01 - 5.45mm Seppa dai: 4.75mm (Nakabiku) Nakago-ana: 27mm x 8mm 5 Quote
MauroP Posted October 21 Report Posted October 21 As far as I know Heianjo-sukashi and Kyo-sukashi are just two names for the same school/tradition. Heianjo-sukashi is possibly an outdated name (I've never found it on a NBTHK paper). Quote
FlorianB Posted October 22 Report Posted October 22 Doesn't look like Kyo Sukashi (or Heianjo sukashi). It might be based on their composition, but it lacks their elegance and such modelled sukashi is untypical. What about Shoami? Best Florian Quote
sabiji Posted October 22 Report Posted October 22 Oh Florian, don't always blame everything on the poor Shoami. They can do it better and more elegantly. Maybe Kinai. 1 Quote
lonely panet Posted October 22 Report Posted October 22 Dont pick on kinai, they do better then that 1 2 Quote
cdrcm12 Posted October 22 Author Report Posted October 22 Thanks all for your comments. I did think Kinai at one point. Quote
Spartancrest Posted October 22 Report Posted October 22 On 10/21/2024 at 1:26 AM, cdrcm12 said: thoughts please Hi Colin have you seen this? https://www.jauce.com/auction/d1158008208 obvious differences but a lot of similarity particularly the bottom of the guard where the stems come together. I don't think the seller has attributed it to any particular school or smith which is a pity. 2 Quote
cdrcm12 Posted October 22 Author Report Posted October 22 Hi Dale, thanks, I hadn't seen this, very similar. Will try copy the images for the record. Quote
FlorianB Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 On 10/22/2024 at 8:05 AM, sabiji said: Oh Florian, don't always blame everything on the poor Shoami. They can do it better and more elegantly. Thomas, Yes, they did - remembering Your fantastic pieces! First of all I wanted to correct the Kyo Sukashi imputation (my personal favorite) without daunting a young collector. I thought also of Kinai but didn’t dare to write it down because of my limited knowledge. Florian 1 Quote
cdrcm12 Posted October 24 Author Report Posted October 24 I had a read of Malcolm Coxs' reference guide on Kinai, which very useful. I'm more inclined to say Kinai, with possible Shoami influence. Will look further into which of the two Kinai families it could be attributed to. Quote
sabiji Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 6 hours ago, FlorianB said: Thomas, Yes, they did - remembering Your fantastic pieces! First of all I wanted to correct the Kyo Sukashi imputation (my personal favorite) without daunting a young collector. I thought also of Kinai but didn’t dare to write it down because of my limited knowledge. Florian You and limited knowledge? Typical Japanese understatement from you... Quote
Spartancrest Posted October 25 Report Posted October 25 On 10/22/2024 at 11:53 PM, cdrcm12 said: Will try copy the images for the record. Another - chunky version that sold recently. Not as nice as yours Colin but something to compare. https://www.ebay.com/itm/186569600604 sold August 12th. Quote
Spartancrest Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 Super chunky rim - I don't think it is a close "relative", naive or even crude? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/126135397583 Quote
cdrcm12 Posted October 26 Author Report Posted October 26 This one from Artur Drogameicza was posted on Facebook yesterday. Very similar, almost identical. 1 Quote
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