Winchester Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Please share some photos or commentary on early iron tosogu; be it wabi sabi aesthetics; yamakichibei; armor, early menuki, et cetera. One of mine to get started: 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabi Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Pretty much all I own, this should get the momentum going. Two Nidai Yamakichibei, both in his fully developed, individual style. First a spring theme Sakura and Ume accented by the matsukawabishi, a popular pattern on period textiles and commonly paired with floral desings. To me this piece radiates flower viewing vibes. The second shifts to a later season with a strong Autumnal feel. The drizzle motif (Shigure) and boars eye (Inome) are characteristic of this time of year. A masterpiece which leaves the viewer with a chill, you can feel and hear the rain, smell the crisp air and fallen leaves. 5 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabi Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Two more, getting slightly earlier now into late Muromachi/Momoyama. A large and imposing Ko-Katchushi with a snowstorm design of equal ferocity. Beautifully composed despite its busy plate, the sign of a true master lost to time. Note the pronounced counterclockwise tilt of the form, an often seen feature of pre-Edo guards. Lastly we arrive back in early spring when the warabi, or bracken ferns emerge from the recently thawed earth (we call them fiddleheads where I'm from). A favorite motif of mine that instantly transports me this time of year, walks in the woods and foraging for these fleeting delicacies. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 19 Author Report Share Posted October 19 Just remarkable pieces, Evan. Thank you very kindly for sharing. Very moving and yet subtle, dynamic with calm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zanilu Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Hera are some of mine Tosho, cherry and plum blossoms Umetada, plum blossoms. Katchushi , kukurizaru under the rain Nobuie, Tortoise shell pattern with sakura. Nobuie, gourds, arabesque, clumps of bamboo leaves, and tortoise shell pattern on themimi I hope you enjoy them. Regards Luca 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 19 Author Report Share Posted October 19 Thank you for sharing, Paris and Luca. Really nice tusba! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex A Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 How early i dont know. Its Muromachi, Utilitarian, 2mm thickness. Like the design and also attracted to nakago ana that show changes in use. Just adds a bit more appeal, for me. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 19 Author Report Share Posted October 19 Seems to be the middle part of Muromachi, Alex? Just an opinion. Thank you for sharing; very pleasing piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex A Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 10 minutes ago, Winchester said: Seems to be the middle part of Muromachi, Alex? Just an opinion. Thank you for sharing; very pleasing piece. Yes, i suppose so, likely once sat on a single handed Uchigatana. Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toryu2020 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 Large plain iron papered as Muromachi Tosho 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curran Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 Great thread. I tend to focus on Higo and Owari, so will offer up an old Kanayama as my contribution. Interesting in that it is somewhat concave on one side. You can see it in the second photo, thought it would be more evident if photo was in winter light. That would seem to be a kantei point for some of the 1500s Kanayama. 4 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 A personal “early” tsuba for me.. https://sword-auction.com/en/product/3692/af20513-鍔：無銘/ 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZH1980 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 I believe this to be the earliest tsuba in my collection; reported by the seller to be late Muromachi or early Momoyama. With that said, it’s mumei and not papered, so I’m really not sure. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 I'm told this thin and simple tsuba may be early tosho. Don't know enough to say one way or another, but it has grown on me. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake6500 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 Here is a tsuba I recently picked up... (possibly Azuchi-Momoyama tsuba from Kaga?) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 20 Author Report Share Posted October 20 Hi Jake, It's possible that has the Maeda clan mon? Lovely piece and does seem early. Big, thank you for sharing. I really like constellation / moon tsuba, but do not have one presently. Thank you, Brian and Zachary. I am not an expert commentator by any means, but it seems evident that both have significant age and the iron gets a particular 'tell' to it from these periods--along with the other clues. Very cool. Thanks for sharing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 I think this is my oldest, a KO-TOSHO (pre EDO JIDAI): 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobnails Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 Hi guys , two tsuba that are probably my oldest #1 Ko Shoami tsuba #2 momoyama period owari tsuba 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake6500 Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 17 hours ago, Winchester said: Hi Jake, It's possible that has the Maeda clan mon? Lovely piece and does seem early. Big, thank you for sharing. I really like constellation / moon tsuba, but do not have one presently. Thank you, Brian and Zachary. I am not an expert commentator by any means, but it seems evident that both have significant age and the iron gets a particular 'tell' to it from these periods--along with the other clues. Very cool. Thanks for sharing. Yes I believe so, which is why I suggested it may be from Kaga! I'm pleased other observers have also picked up on it! Most of my collection are more artistic ornamental (mid-late) Edo Period pieces but I want to build a collection of 4 pre-Edo tsuba with mon such as this one if I can find them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurikata Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 My Ko Tosho 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluckdaddy76 Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 94 mm diameter, I am not positive on age but have been told this is an older tsuba Jason 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluckdaddy76 Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 Again not sure on age, 91 mm diameter and very nice iron quality. Jason 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauroP Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 Here what I think is a pre-Edo Kamakura tsuba: 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisW Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 Here is what I believe to be a Ko-tosho tsuba from one of my blades, came mounted on a 29.5" Sukesada. Interestingly, it has a very prominent kirikomi on the rim to the side of the sukashi cutout. It is a superbly thin piece, barely a few millimeters in thickness, but 3.5" across! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 Chris, it is probably a nice TSUBA you have there, but we do not see much of the beauty. To be fully appreciated, your TSUBA images should be: - well focused, not foggy or blurry - made with a dark, non reflective background for good contrast - made with light from the side (may not apply for HAMON photos) - made directly from above (not at an angle) - made in high resolution to see details - presented as cut-outs so very little background is shown If you cannot provide good photos (..."these photos are all I have from the dealer...."/..."I do not have a good camera but only an old mobile phone...." ), DO NOT POST BAD ONES. They cannot show what you want us to see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabiji Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 Ko Shoami 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 Wari-kōgai, iron. Said to be old, Muromachi (?) but I do not know enough about these. The slanting ‘shoulders’ below the ‘mimi-kaki’ may be one indication. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogoro Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 Katchushi tsuba 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisW Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 8 hours ago, ROKUJURO said: Chris, it is probably a nice TSUBA you have there, but we do not see much of the beauty. To be fully appreciated, your TSUBA images should be: - well focused, not foggy or blurry - made with a dark, non reflective background for good contrast - made with light from the side (may not apply for HAMON photos) - made directly from above (not at an angle) - made in high resolution to see details - presented as cut-outs so very little background is shown If you cannot provide good photos (..."these photos are all I have from the dealer...."/..."I do not have a good camera but only an old mobile phone...." ), DO NOT POST BAD ONES. They cannot show what you want us to see. This is all Brian will let you say now, eh? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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