Scogg Posted September 6, 2024 Report Posted September 6, 2024 Very cool and congratulations. Very neat and interesting kashira! Thanks for sharing, -Sam Quote
Lewis B Posted September 6, 2024 Report Posted September 6, 2024 On 9/6/2024 at 4:22 PM, Toryu2020 said: Uda Kunimune? Expand Yes, seller says the attribution is 4th generation Uda Kunimune. Quote
Rivkin Posted September 6, 2024 Report Posted September 6, 2024 I'm just going to state what I think. I am sorry it will sound rough. NBTHK holds Uda Kunimune in a bit higher regard than say Tomotsugu. If it writes Tomotsugu its late Muromachi, if its Kunimune it can be on the edge between Nanbokucho and Muromachi and generally hamon can have decent work in nie. One usually goes for TH to "confirm" its Nanbokucho. I don't want to check, lazy, but then you have Kunifusa which they give to good early Muromachi Uda with tight itame and there are couple of other Muromachi names. This being said in kantei they are all considered Muromachi by default and atari to each other. This one is clearly late Muromachi, not Nanbokucho, so it has to be NTHK papers. NTHK works differently in a sense they give a name + date so they can have anydate Kunimine - early, late etc.. Nevertheless, this example has very uncommon for Uda nakago, its hadamono with weak hamon suffocated by hadori. Late uda will have rough hada and coarse, nie based hamon. I suspect this is post 2021 NTHK or NTHK NPO papers with a Strange Attribution. Quote
b.hennick Posted September 7, 2024 Report Posted September 7, 2024 I like the koshirae a lot. 👍👍 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted September 7, 2024 Report Posted September 7, 2024 Extraordinary Koshirae, very attractive. Quote
Markdd Posted September 8, 2024 Author Report Posted September 8, 2024 Hi, Thanks for the info here's the papers Quote
Shugyosha Posted September 9, 2024 Report Posted September 9, 2024 I may be misreading this, but do the papers date the blade to around Enpo? ( 延宝頃 ) ? If so, late 17th century rather than koto period? 1 Quote
Rivkin Posted September 9, 2024 Report Posted September 9, 2024 I possibly see Enkyo, which would make it not a Meikan recorded smith. It can be a shinto rather than Muromachi nakago. In my impression shinto's Uda were a generic shinto style smiths: https://www.aoijapan...katana-uda-kunimune/ but possibly the meaning behind the papers is that some continued to imitate the Muromachi style. In which case its actually an interesting attribution. 1 Quote
Toryu2020 Posted September 9, 2024 Report Posted September 9, 2024 I believe what you are seeing is Den: Etchu Kodai Uda Kunimune. a place name not a date... 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted September 9, 2024 Report Posted September 9, 2024 I’m looking at the left hand column next to the seals, not the attribution. That says “later generation Uda Kunimune”. Quote
Shugyosha Posted September 10, 2024 Report Posted September 10, 2024 There are a couple on line dated to Kanbun, so maybe Empo isn't such a stretch. The one at Aoi has a similar nakago jiri to that in Mark's OP. https://www.aoijapan...katana-uda-kunimune/ https://www.samuraim...nteisho-certificate/ Quote
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